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Ayreonaut wrote:

That is absolutely true.
That's the concern that prompted me to try Audyssey MultEQ without the BFD.

But the proof is in the pudding.
Prudent EQ plus Audyssey sounds much better in my system.
So if you already have a BFD and you get Audyssey, I recommend:

1. Use REW to measure sub response at multiple seating locations.
2. Average the responses and implement EQ to attenuate the major peaks. No house curve.
3. Set up Audyssey MultEQ.
4. If your receiver calls your mains "large", change them to "small" and crossover at 80 Hz.
5. If you want a house curve, add it now.

Don't knock it till you try it!

Good info.

Ayreonaut wrote:

As Shawn says, if you want better results than Audyssey MultEQ can deliver, you can always step up to the more advanced versions of MultEQ XT and Pro. But that is an expensive proposition...

I have a Denon 3808ci, which has the ability to utilize the Audyssey Pro Installer Kit. I've been reading for awhile about the BFD, and would like to implement one in my system. The problem is which one to buy and...:

1. Feedback Destroyer Pro FBQ2496

   Pros: Supported by REW, MIDI Control, and the BFD guide, available and shipped for ~$150, no chip issues.

   Cons: One preset

2. Feedback Destroyer Pro DSP1124P.

   Pros: Great reputation,Multiple presets

   Cons: Chip surgery to get MIDI, Discontinued

I like the MIDI option with the FBQ2496, but also the multiple presets with the DSP1124P. BUT, because I'd be using it in conjunction with the Audyssey system are multiple presets even needed when using the BFD the way Ayreonaut is talking about?

Ayreonaut wrote:

The BFD is still the best $99 tweak I know of.

Isn't a proper microphone, external sound card, and REW necessary for BFD to work the way your talking about? All these things cost money. Wouldn't their cost be approaching what the Audyssey installer costs which I believe is $325.

I'm trying to figure out the best way to get the best sound out of my room with the least amount of money spent, and with a moderately integrated solution. If possible.