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Old 03-14-07, 04:14 PM   #7 (Link)
 
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Re: IB makeover..........


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Ilkka wrote:
Yes, 70 cu ft, four 6" x 26" ports. With 2600 watts, peak port velocity is ~46.7 m/s at ~10.7 Hz. Which of us has its simulation wrong?
I use RMS as opposed to peak, that would be the cause of the difference.

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This is about how much SPL can each system (SLLT/IB) output before exceeding some specific excursion (Xmax, Xmech - doesn't matter). You limited (input power) the IB system to the point where it exceeded the Xmax at 11 Hz. Then naturally you have to do this also to SLLT.
That's exactly what I did. The comparison I attached has both systems reaching xmax at 11hz.

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Of course I agree with you regarding the electronics roll-off (my own simulations included it), but when comparing two systems, you have to use the same rules, if you know what I mean.
I'm not sure I follow - I didn't add a highpass or anything to the sealed design. What I was showing was the likely max output before room gain of both systems if they both reached overexcursion at the same frequency.

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but when optimizing both systems, the final difference isn't as large as you originally showed.
Replace the four 6" ports with two 10" ports that are each 34" long. Now, even if peak port speed is used, it's well within the limits of a 10" at all frequencies, so there shouldn't be any port compression. What else are you taking into effect to lessen the gap?

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And the extra output doesn't come without any expenses (added group delay and ringing around the tuning frequency, and port noises near maximum output level).
I'd call both of those non issues at 12hz, even if using the 6" ports. 10"s would make it that much more of a non issue


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