It's in the different menu. I have top of the line Integra, so yours maybe have different pages. It has nothing to do with the one you mentioned.
I wish I knew where that setting was then...
Direct will disable bass management, so don't use it.
Multich is for PCM yes use that.
Okay -- THANK YOU for finally confirming this for me...the funny thing is, though, that by using MULTICHANNEL, I also get a massive LFE drop as compared to running bitstreamed Dolby and DTS tracks -- this is something I have been discussing for endless weeks now over on AVS Forums; people there claimed that some of these uncompressed PCM tracks have LFE signals in them, but recorded at a much lower level than we're used to, and our receivers or processors need to boost these signals -- I don't think my Onkyo is doing this with these uncompressed LPCM tracks; I get little to no bass on these tracks.
Now, let me explain a situation I had last night with an experiment I did: I took out
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (on Blu-ray, of course) and flipped back and forth, again, between the disc's DOLBY DIGITAL 5.1 and UNCOMPRESSED 5.1 tracks, also comparing the way the system behaved by changing the SPEAKER SETTINGS on the Blu-ray player between MULTI CHANNEL and 2 CHANNEL...weird things happened here, and I didn't understand why because
I am running only HDMI connections through my system, and I thought these SPEAKER SETTINGS in the PLAYER were only for ANALOG OUT connections...first, if I kept the player's SPEAKER SETTINGS on MULTI CHANNEL, and then played the uncompressed PCM track, the receiver only let me choose between two listening modes for the track: DIRECT and MULTICHANNEL. When I switched the setting on the player to 2-CHANNEL output for SPEAKER SETTINGS and played the PCM track, the receiver suddenly let me use all the DSP modes available, such as All Channel Stereo, Mono Movie, Pro Logic II, etc...all of which sounded horrible on the uncompressed track. I don't understand what is going on here....if this SPEAKER SETTINGS menu is ONLY for analog output, then why is the audio being affected when I'm connected ONLY through HDMI and I play with these settings? And then the question becomes should I leave the SPEAKER SETTINGS on 2-CHANNEL or MULTI CHANNEL?
You have to look for that LFE setting I told you about, and make sure it is set for the highest setting which is 0db.
I have no idea where this is...
Nope, the only reason you would have that problem if the player is downmixing those to 2 ch PCM, in that case you loose the entire LFE. With DTS HD MA the player very likely convert the core DTS to 2 ch PCM since it cannot decode hence recover the entire data stream. DTS HD MA is nothing more then a losslessly compressed PCM data, so when you unable to recover all that's needed, data will be lost, in this case entire channles, unless you transmit the lossy core in bitstream. get it?
No, not really; I'm really confused at this point. Being that this deck DOES NOT bitstream the high resolution codecs, I have been keeping Dolby Digital Plus and Dolby TrueHD on PCM so the decoded stream can be passed to my receiver as PCM (the player decodes the TrueHD and passes it...); but, with DTS MASTER AUDIO tracks, this has been the issue:
Since the player DOES NOT support Master Audio at all, what happens in my setup is this: I keep the "DTS HD" audio output on the player on BITSTREAM and play a Master Audio track, and my receiver displays the "DTS" logo, indicating to me that the receiver is being sent the raw bitstream signal of the CORE DTS mix extracted from the Master Audio stem...now, if I keep the DTS HD audio output of the player on PCM instead, the receiver sees that "MULTICH" display, indicating to me the core DTS mix is being decoded IN THE PLAYER instead, and then the receiver is getting the DECODED CORE DTS MIX from the player...EITHER WAY, as was explained to me on another site, I AM ONLY GETTING THE CORE DTS MIX EMBEDDED IN THE MASTER AUDIO MIX....so, BITSTREAM sounds better to me, so I keep the DTS HD setting on BITSTREAM in the player....follow and agree, or no?
Yes I was aware, that is why there is a difference between the True HD decoding which the player can do, so no downmixing is invilved like for the DTS HD MA track.
But I don't understand; I keep the TRUEHD audio output of the PLAYER on PCM -- is this correct? -- that way it can send the DECODED signal to my receiver as multichannel...this, again, causes a lack of bass, but that's something I can't do anything about.
So, are you telling me that the manual for this player is CORRECT -- that what it is actually doing is taking the audio codecs that are set for PCM output and DOWNMIXING THEM into a 2-CHANNEL SIGNAL to be sent to the receiver? Isn't this not right, though???
Because you had selected it, as you just said it.
Right, but see my reply above -- IF THE AUDIO OUTPUTS OF CERTAIN CODECS ARE SET TO PCM, AND THE PLAYER IS CONVERTING IT TO A TWO CHANNEL DOWNMIX AND SENDING IT TO THE RECEIVER, THEN WHY IS IT READ AS "MULTICHANNEL" AT THE RECEIVER???
Just ignore that, Use the multich setting.
But why did they print that there? What did they mean by "If you are connected to equipment that can decode, select 2 Channel here....if you are connected to equipment that cannot decode, select MULTI CHANNEL here..."?
And, better yet, WHY IS THIS SETTING MAKING AN AUDIBLE DIFFERENCE IF I AM ONLY CONNECTED VIA HMDI AND THESE SETTINGS ARE FOR ANALOG OUT ONLY?
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