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Chrisbee wrote:
 Steve
Time to end these circular discussions! Time to put up or shut up!
Since you are a vociferous minority it is you who has to prove the value of your LLT design over the ever-more-popular IB.
Because an IB can't come to you it now behoves you to drag your LLT into someone's HT.
Where a typical, BFD equalised, Behringer EP2500 powered, 4 x 15" IB is installed.
(let's call this an average spec IB for the sake of this contest)
Compare the two subs side by side on the same material after careful level matching.
We'll need a couple of witnesses to ensure fair play.
Now which subwoofer sounds more real on music and film?
(there are really no other questions which matter)
The ball is in your court!  |
I honestly don't see this happening but it would be really cool if it did. I'm no expert nore even close to one but i've been fulling with audio for quite a bit, about 8-9 years. I've never heard anything near as close in accuracy as this IB. I understand the benefit of the added output of a SLLT but I honestly think it's useless, atleast in my situation. Maybe in a giant room with a concrete floor it's not but in my situation it would be and I think in many's situation it would be. I mean how much more out put do you you guys need ha ha. My old car stuff would do over 140db all day long and this four 18" IB system has much more subsonic power and i'd venture to say all the way up to about 30hz power. That's silly for a home and far more then most main speakers are capable of mustering.
The reason I say this is i'm convinced that adding a ported enclosure to an IB will in fact put sound artifacts in the subwoofer system that just aren't present with an IB. I'm not talking about things you can measure and graph etc., i'm talking about how the setup actually sounds which is really all that matters unless they invent DB Drage Racing for homes. The first time I was convinced was at HT Nuts house with his four 18" IXL IB in the ceiling when I heard the shotgun in Dukes of Hazard. The decay and the realism was unreal. this was something I never heard in my previous LLT setup and I don't think it had anything to do with the amount of drivers contained or any displacment advantage the IB had, the LLT system just couldn't convey that kind of detail.
This is all my opinion ofcourse but my suggestion to any considering one of these options would just be to spend the money on the drivers and put them in an IB, it's far easier then a SLLT and I'd certainly guess a good bit more realistic but it's only a guess. And plus with 30mm xmax 18" woofers now for $200 it's simply a no brainer if you ask me. Don't have enough output? Buy 8 and four behringeer or two nicer quaility higher power amps and forget anything regarding any output advantage as it will become useless.
I'm sure the SLLT has it's place in certain situations but in my limited understanding of this hobby I can't see my ever considering that route.