16:9 Screen Vs. 2.37:1 CIH Screen

[Prof.]

The cheapest one that I know of would be the Lumagen Video processor..
You should be able to pick one up for less than $900.00..
http://www.lumagen.com/testindex.php?module=dvi_details

[Mark Techer]

blaser wrote:

OK and for projectors who do not have a scaler for HD, is there a cheep video processor to do do?

Your signature suggests that you have not yet bought the Epson, so may I suggest you look at another projector that does offer scaling for HD?

Mark

[Blaser]

Mark Techer wrote:

Your signature suggests that you have not yet bought the Epson, so may I suggest you look at another projector that does offer scaling for HD?

Mark

There is not projector with similar quality and black level at its price delivered here in Egypt. I really like it and I already paid for it, just waiting, should be here mid march.

B rgds
Ahmed Saleh

[Blaser]

Prof. wrote:

The cheapest one that I know of would be the Lumagen Video processor..
You should be able to pick one up for less than $900.00..
http://www.lumagen.com/testindex.php?module=dvi_details

That is a good price, but it does not accept 1080p I think

Is there any quality improvement from a video processor? Rather than just doing VS thing?

[Mark Techer]

blaser wrote:

Is there any quality improvement from a video processor? Rather than just doing VS thing?

If you spend money on them like the Realto (spelling ?), then yes...

Mark

[Prof.]

blaser wrote:

That is a good price, but it does not accept 1080p I think

To get 1080p you will have to go to the Vision HDP model, at about $1200.00..

You would save yourself a lot of extra expense if you went for a projector that has VS as Mark suggested..
The Epson is a good projector, but there are other excellent projectors that have VS..

[Mark Techer]

Interesting add for the Marantz

Vertical Stretch - Eliminate those unwanted black bars

I do notice there is no mention of the need for an anamorphic lens, but at least it represents a plug and play solution for CIH...

Mark

[SQCherokee]

wow...very informative thread...think I need to read this over a couple more times.

[Prof.]

If there is anything that you don't understand or not sure about...ask away..

[basementjack]

not entirely related to this thread, as I don't have an anamorphic lens, but I recently replaced my screen with a DIY 2.4:1 screen

for normal 16x9 source material (such as an xbox game) I have black bars on the left and right.
a nice bonus I hadn't thought about was that the mind/eyes don't notice the black bars on the left and right nearly as much as they do top and bottom.
I think this is because when the projector is zoomed to project a 16:9 image, there is no light spill onto the 2.4:1 screen on either side.

for wide screen movies in the 2.4:1 range, I zoom the projector lens and the movie fills the screen perfectly.

WHAT A DIFFERENCE!

Everyone who's seen it thinks it's fantastic!

[Prof.]

Well you've made a good start Jack, with a 2.4:1 screen..

More and more people are going this route now for their standard 16:9 projection..
It does make life a bit easier with just side masking for 16:9, or not bothering with it at all..
I've never found the need to mask my 2.4:1 screen..

However, you are missing out on full image quality, when you zoom to fill the screen..The pixels are being stretched horizontally and vertically, which degrades the image to some degree..

To give you an idea of how much better it would look, when you use an anamorphic lens..
Next time you have a 2.35:1 movie up on the screen, take a close look at how sharp and detailed it is, prior to zooming..
This is almost the same detail you will see, when a lens is used to expand the image..

If you go the DIY way or buy a lens kit assembly, it's not all that expensive to have a very reasonable anamorphic lens..

[basementjack]

Hey Prof, there's no doubt the anamorphic lens is the way to go
currently, I have a 720 projector, and I sit just beyond the point where I would see screen door when the image is 10 feet wide (thats how wide my screen is)

I've sat on the lens sidelines watching people with more disposable income than myself enjoy some really spectacular setups.

What are the DIY lenses costing these days?

[Prof.]

basementjack wrote:

Hey Prof, there's no doubt the anamorphic lens is the way to go
currently, I have a 720 projector, and I sit just beyond the point where I would see screen door when the image is 10 feet wide (thats how wide my screen is)

That's very nice wide screen and it would look absolutely brilliant with Anamorphic projection..

What are the DIY lenses costing these days?

OK..There are two ways of going DIY..

1. Buying prisms from someone like this http://www.crystalfactory.com/CWD46-CWD57-CWD68.asp
The 5"x7" is the size you need, and if you have just rudimentary carpentry skills, it's very easy to make a case for them..
Mark and myself can give you all the info. you need to do this..

2. You can buy a lens kit from HT Brothers or CAVX..I have the CAVX lens..http://cavx.blogspot.com/2007/04/4-prism-lens.html
Just scroll down for pricing..

As you can see, a considerable saving on buying commercial lenses..