Home Theater Shack Forums
Home About Us Rules Register Gallery Glossary FAQ
Creative Sound Solutions: Loudspeaker kits and components for subwoofers, midwoofers, woofers and full range speakers! Reliable Hardware: A Reliable Source for Case, Cabinet and Acoustical Hardware! Epik Subwoofers manufactures world-leading high performance subwoofers for die-hard home theater and music enthusiasts who won't settle for anything less than the best. Parts Express: Excellent Source for DIY Speaker and Subwoofer Projects! RAM Electronics: Audio, Video, Home Theater and Computer Cables. PacParts: Replacement parts & accessories from the most recognized manufacturers in the Consumer Electronics Industry! Discount Merchant:  If you need a replacement bulb for your video device... look no further... save big! Emotiva is your Home Theater Component Source for Audiophile Quality Home Theater Equipment at Factory Direct Prices Fi Audio: Infinitely amazing balanced high end musicality designed drivers! Ultimate Home Entertainment: Providing home theater seating and accessories such as popcorn machines and signage... at very affordable prices! Visual Apex: The most competitive pricing for home theater projectors... and built on customer satisfaction! BOCS - Power Up Your Tivo! Elite Screens offers the finest in affordable projection screens. Musicians Friend: Your one stop shop for microphones, mic amps and Behringer products. GIK Acoustics: Home audio acoustics at its best... especially when you have help from the owners right here at the Shack!  Check out their very affordable acoustic panels!
Go Back   Home Theater Forum - Home Theater Systems - HomeTheaterShack.com > Equalization | Calibration > BFD | Electronic Equalization Devices
Forgot Password?

BFD | Electronic Equalization Devices 

Behringer 1124p vs. FBQ2496  Discuss Behringer 1124p vs. FBQ2496 in the Equalization | Calibration forum; Behringer 1124p vs. FBQ2496 Hello, I was wondering if the only difference between the Bheringer1124P and the FBQ2496 is the number of filers that ...



 Reply     Post New Thread
Views: 1312 - Replies: 9  
Thread Tools
Old 10-25-07, 11:07 PM   #1
Shackster
Alias: vince dallaire
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
User: #12578
Since: Oct 2007
Posts: 50
  vince is offline  
Behringer 1124p vs. FBQ2496


Hello,
I was wondering if the only difference between the Bheringer1124P and the FBQ2496 is the number of filers that are selectable? Is one unit perhaps quiter than the other? After using R+D software to measure my room that was designed using the Bolt perameters in mind to space out the modes as best or evenly as possible, I still have a couple of peaks I would like to remedy. I have built in bass traps in every corner and have treated the ceiling with suspended 2.5 inch floating panels, also heavily dampend my first reflections. The peaks I am left with are centered at 150hz and with quite a large bandwidth, also one around 3.5k, couple db. So I have done all I can do for now treatment wise. So if in fact there is no diff. between the two parametric EQ's other than filter count, than could the is the 1124p ok for full range or is there a better parametric out there that isn't in the millions, that would help tame these couple critical freaquency problems??????? I used the 1124p on my sub and with R+D was able to get the bass region beautiful!, but had to use cheater adapter to kill noise!
Sorry for the long post
Vince



Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Alt Advertisement
Old 10-26-07, 06:53 AM   #2
Elite Shackster
Platinum Supporter
Alias: brucek
User: #6
Since: Apr 2006
Posts: 7,306
  brucek is offline  
Re: Behringer 1124p vs. FBQ2496


Use the 2496 if you're going to apply it to full range duties. It has better specs.

How wide are these peaks? Usually narrow peaks and dips aren't noticeable. If you plan to remove a peak at 3.5K, you might find that by moving the measuring mic a small amount could change the results quite a bit. Hopefully the peaks are quite wide and you would use very low Q filters.

brucek


Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-07, 09:38 PM   #3
Shackster
Alias: Eric
Loc: Carp, ON Canada
User: #14172
Since: Dec 2007
Posts: 53
  tomacco is offline  
Re: Behringer 1124p vs. FBQ2496


Quote:
brucek wrote: View Post
If you plan to remove a peak at 3.5K, you might find that by moving the measuring mic a small amount could change the results quite a bit. brucek
Is it usual to reposition mics to get the response you want? Seems like a senseless exercise - what did I miss?


Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-07, 10:22 PM   #4
Senior Shackster
Alias: terry
Loc: bathurst nsw australia
User: #1819
Since: Jul 2006
Posts: 431
  terry j is offline  
Re: Behringer 1124p vs. FBQ2496


no, that is the whole point Bruce was making. If you measure in only one position, and try to correct a sharp spike, you could very well be correcting a 'measurement artifact', which will show up by it changing dramatically if you move the mic.

It also shows that (generally) it's only worthwhile correcting the bass region, unless it is a very broad correction at the higher frequencies, not sharp as in Bruce's example.


Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-07, 10:40 PM   #5
Shackster
Alias: Eric
Loc: Carp, ON Canada
User: #14172
Since: Dec 2007
Posts: 53
  tomacco is offline  
Re: Behringer 1124p vs. FBQ2496


Thanks for the explanation. Now the leading question - how many measurements at each position to provide you with the confidence that you've conducted a proper job in the measurements that you've taken. I presume you find the "weak points" in the system, and concentrate on those. If you find a "wild" point, your data is going to be scrambled - you're not going to have a cluster of similar points. What do you do, or do you employ another approach?
Thanks - I hope you can understand that to which I'm eluding.


Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-07, 11:39 PM   #6
Senior Shackster
Alias: terry
Loc: bathurst nsw australia
User: #1819
Since: Jul 2006
Posts: 431
  terry j is offline  
Re: Behringer 1124p vs. FBQ2496


I do it differently.

Explained it all in another thread

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/rew-forum/7607-eq-mics-rew-oh-my.html#post63941

goes over this ground, saves me doing it again ha ha.

just my take, have a look and see what (if anything) you agree with.


Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-07, 09:35 PM   #7
Shackster
Alias: Eric
Loc: Carp, ON Canada
User: #14172
Since: Dec 2007
Posts: 53
  tomacco is offline  
Re: Behringer 1124p vs. FBQ2496


Quote:
terry j wrote: View Post
I do it differently.

Explained it all in another thread

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/rew-forum/7607-eq-mics-rew-oh-my.html#post63941

goes over this ground, saves me doing it again ha ha.

just my take, have a look and see what (if anything) you agree with.
I appreciate the link - brucek's explanation isn't kicking in. Hold on - I just had an epiphany. Thanks

Best Regards
Eric G.


Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-07, 04:11 PM   #8
Shackster
Alias: Eric
Loc: Carp, ON Canada
User: #14172
Since: Dec 2007
Posts: 53
  tomacco is offline  
Re: Behringer 1124p vs. FBQ2496


Quote:
terry j wrote: View Post
I do it differently.

Explained it all in another thread

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/rew-forum/7607-eq-mics-rew-oh-my.html#post63941

goes over this ground, saves me doing it again ha ha.

just my take, have a look and see what (if anything) you agree with.
Hi Terry: Isn't the obvious solution to buy a base unit, and then plug in modules which accommodate your needs. Or do the interfaces to accommodate 'everything' generate a complex PCB, more expensive than the problem you were trying to address?

My experience in designing Analog I/O boards years ago was that the later was the case.

Best Regards
Eric G.


Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-07, 05:28 PM   #9
Senior Shackster
Alias: terry
Loc: bathurst nsw australia
User: #1819
Since: Jul 2006
Posts: 431
  terry j is offline  
Re: Behringer 1124p vs. FBQ2496


sorry Eric, no comprehende.

if you're referring to the deq 2496 (?) then it's cheap enough to do all that you ask, and from the other thread $200 sounds very worthwhile. It will make more of a sonic difference than $20 000 speaker cables ha ha, a bargain if ever there was.

Anyway, really don't know what you're asking back there.


Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-07, 05:38 PM   #10
Shackster
Alias: Eric
Loc: Carp, ON Canada
User: #14172
Since: Dec 2007
Posts: 53
  tomacco is offline  
Re: Behringer 1124p vs. FBQ2496


Quote:
terry j wrote: View Post
sorry Eric, no comprehende.

if you're referring to the deq 2496 (?) then it's cheap enough to do all that you ask, and from the other thread $200 sounds very worthwhile. It will make more of a sonic difference than $20 000 speaker cables ha ha, a bargain if ever there was.

Anyway, really don't know what you're asking back there.
Hi Terry j: Anytime you design a generalised PCB, you are asking the customer to pay for functions that he may never use (now). Later is a different story, but we're not in that business of telling the future.

Does that answer it, or did I misunderstand your question?


Forum Rules Reply With Quote
 Reply     Post New Thread     Post New Thread



« Home Theater Shack > Equalization | Calibration > BFD | Electronic Equalization Devices »

« Previous Thread   Next Thread »

Bookmarks
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads... You may not post replies... You may not post attachments... You may not edit your posts

BB code is On... Smilies are On... [IMG] code is On... HTML is not allowed!



Bookmark and Share


Parts Express: The #1 Internet source for all your DIY and electronics needs!

Ultimate Home Entertainment    

This site is best viewed with a screen resolution width of 1280 or higher!




Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2006 - 2010, Home Theater Shack, LLC.
John Mulcahy and Sonnie Parker - ALL RIGHTS RESERVED!



Massage Chairs   Wall Fountains   Bath Vanities   Electric Fireplaces   Bunk Beds

Dish Network



Sponsor/Vendor Ad Rates

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0