Proposal for the BSE2496C (Behringer Sub Equalizer 24/96 Consumer)

**Sonnie** · **08-22-06, 12:02 PM**

The last time I sent them an email, they completely ignored me. I need to touch base with them again.

**Malice** · **10-19-06, 06:41 PM**

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The unit has been extremely popular and continues to be the popular choice for sub equalization, where it can be found, being that it has been recently discontinued.

Is it the case that the DSP1124 is now freely available again?

**Sonnie** · **10-19-06, 07:39 PM**

Yes, they are available most everywhere that I know of. My distributor still has plenty and I see them listed at Parts Express and other places as well.

UPDATE: I sent another email to Behringer but no response. I'm about to go over that guys head and see if I can contact the next person in charge. I'll keep going up until I get someone who'll hopefully talk with me.

Wish me luck!

**Otto** · **10-19-06, 10:42 PM**

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Sonnie wrote:

Yes, they are available most everywhere that I know of. My distributor still has plenty and I see them listed at Parts Express and other places as well.

UPDATE: I sent another email to Behringer but no response. I'm about to go over that guys head and see if I can contact the next person in charge. I'll keep going up until I get someone who'll hopefully talk with me.

Wish me luck!

Indeed, I do wish you good luck, Sonnie. As you probably know, persistence pays off, and so many times -- you just have to talk to the right person if you want that "discount" or "special deal" or whatever. It's a good idea, and I think there's a good market for it.

**Wayne A. Pflughaupt** · **10-20-06, 11:27 AM**

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Yes, they are available most everywhere that I know of. My distributor still has plenty and I see them listed at Parts Express and other places as well.

Don’t forget eBay. I just picked up a barely-used 1124 for my computer system for $69, including shipping. It’s not hard to find them for even less. I’ve seen the older 1100 models sell as low as $36 (+ shipping).

Regards,
Wayne

**Gard** · **10-22-06, 08:00 AM**

Anyone knows where to get 230v versions of the 1124. Is the ones u have in the US 110V only or is they 100-240V or something? I have checked with the distributer and all shops I could find, here in Norway. Nada...

I'll try to trade some used ones with new 2496's and see if I get any responce.

**Malice** · **10-23-06, 02:30 PM**

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Sonnie wrote:

Yes, they are available most everywhere that I know of. My distributor still has plenty and I see them listed at Parts Express and other places as well.

I asked Behringer via their web site about the availability of the DSP1124P.

"May be there are some dealers that have the DSP still on stock, but it definitely is discontinued."

**Sonnie** · **10-27-06, 10:06 AM**

For the record... I have prepared a letter along with the proposal and forwarded it to the following individuals:

Uli Behringer / Chairman
Michael Deeb / Chief Executive Officer
Stephen Fraser / Chief Operating Officer
Dominic Andrla / Chief Financial Officer

I have no idea if these guys will even give us the time of day, but I figure we have nothing to lose. I was reading their mission statement and core values and thought maybe these guys will at least listen.

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Mission Statement

At BEHRINGER, we develop, manufacture and distribute innovative, world-class audio products, all while listening to our customers’ suggestions. And we do all this with a passion and commitment that is second to none.

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Core Values

Customers

We recognize that our customers are ambitious musicians, DJs, light jockeys and studio owners who are cost-conscious. BEHRINGER shares their passion for music and, ultimately, it is these customers who are central to the success of any business listening. We react and customize according to their requirements and needs. This is a crucial and primary priority in our organization. We strive to offer them the highest attainable quality, service and support. Customer feedback is encouraged and welcomed; moreover, we actively solicit our users’ comment and suggestions to enable us to continuously improve our value proposition. BEHRINGER aims to combine art and technology and thus provide our clients with the best audio solutions possible.

Innovation

A well-developed organizational system and culture geared toward innovation marks our economic growth. We at BEHRINGER proactively adapt to market needs and changes, and, view them as opportunities rather than threats. Simply put, innovation is the process of converting knowledge and ideas into tangible benefits. BEHRINGER was founded on the promise to deliver affordable and at the same time innovative professional solutions to the market. We pride ourselves on the fact that we continue to live up to that promise to the benefit and delight of our customers.

Team Spirit

We implement flexible horizontal hierarchies, thus enabling a speedy project delivery, and are co-dependent on each other to achieve our goals. We place a high value on openness and loyalty to each other as well as to outside partners. At BEHRINGER, a multi-cultural society is not a lofty ideal but an everyday reality.

Competence

We are dedicated to what we do. Constant improvement is the focal point in a creative work environment. Individual competence is respected and valued and, similarly, teamwork is encouraged. Our work culture recognizes and rewards performance rather than entitlement.

Improvement

We are committed to research & development and continuous improvement of our value proposition and service levels to our client base indeed contribute to the returns to our shareholders. We realize that superior growth and financial performance are not only targets, but are fundamental for a healthy organization and are a means to fulfilling our core values.

I realize they are focusing on pro audio and not home audio, BUT, think about what the consumer has done with the BFD since 2001. If I were a betting man, I'd hedge my bets on more home consumers owning the 1120P and 1124P than pro audio consumers.

The longer this forum hangs around and the more we grow, the better chance of us having an impact on Behringer. We actively support and promote several of their products for free (BFD's, ECM8000, UB802, EP1500, EP2500, etc), a service to them so to speak.

I encourage everyone to email Behringer, even if you have already emailed them, email them again and let them know you are interested in seeing BSE2496C developed.

**Geoff Gunnell** · **10-29-06, 09:01 AM**

A big market Behringer could tap into is residential room correction.

Right now, if Behringer could switchably scale the RTA display of the DEC2496 to cover only the five octaves between 10Hz and 320 Hz and add a phantom powered mic input for the ECM8000 mic we'd be very close to a product that would do room and subwoofer correction for around $350 street.

I'd intro that product first and then based on customer feedback work on a reduced feature model for the home stereo folks using unbalanced RCA's only and getting rid of everything except the RTA, parametric, 'banded', and shelving/HP/LP filters, and phantom powered mic input.

Although we all know the goal is $99, I don't think that can be done considering the amount of processing power required. Perhaps $249 is a more realistic goal...

But I would gladly pay $350 for what I have described above.

Another product Behringer could sell a lot of is just the RTA display out of the DEQ2496, with the option to full scale the five octaves between 10Hz and 320Hz, and a phantom powered mic input for the ECM8000.

**Sonnie** · **11-01-06, 05:36 PM**

Well... I got an email response from Behringer as a result of my letters to them. Unfortunately I can't copy it because it has one of those disclaimers on it.

The response did say that it is still active. Other than that, they couldn't tell me anything... their reasons were a mile long and sounded like typical corporate talk. Who knows...

They keep records... he noted that it was February 28th 2006 at 11:40 PM (Germany time), that he provided the detailed product description to their product development committee. So it hasnt been quite a year.

**Peter Orrick** · **11-13-06, 04:05 PM**

I AM in market for a Behringer and vote yes on either version- I sent same message to Behringer!

**Sonnie** · **11-13-06, 04:13 PM**

Thanks Peter and welcome to the Shack!

**Sonnie** · **05-25-07, 10:22 AM**

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Sonnie wrote:

For the record... I have prepared a letter along with the proposal and forwarded it to the following individuals:

Uli Behringer / Chairman
Michael Deeb / Chief Executive Officer
Stephen Fraser / Chief Operating Officer
Dominic Andrla / Chief Financial Officer

I have no idea if these guys will even give us the time of day, but I figure we have nothing to lose. I was reading their mission statement and core values and thought maybe these guys will at least listen.

I realize they are focusing on pro audio and not home audio, BUT, think about what the consumer has done with the BFD since 2001. If I were a betting man, I'd hedge my bets on more home consumers owning the 1120P and 1124P than pro audio consumers.

The longer this forum hangs around and the more we grow, the better chance of us having an impact on Behringer. We actively support and promote several of their products for free (BFD's, ECM8000, UB802, EP1500, EP2500, etc), a service to them so to speak.

I encourage everyone to email Behringer, even if you have already emailed them, email them again and let them know you are interested in seeing BSE2496C developed.

For the record, a second time... I was contacted via email by a gentleman who claims to be Dominic Andrla, now former CFO of Behringer. Apparently he has read the above post and states he never received the letter. It was sent, and I know that at least one person received it, but I have a suspicion that it got derailed from making it to all of those names listed.

**kimkong** · **06-13-07, 11:24 AM**

I really think this bsf2496c is a great ide. I have been looking in to the Behringer range but I cant make up my mind. They all have/dont have somthing the other dont/do have. So I will e-mail the guys at behringer

**Avus_M3** · **12-06-07, 03:15 PM**

We need to send a hot German girl with some beer and brats to the corporate office with the letter in hand to deliver to the decision makers

**Jason Schultz** · **02-18-08, 04:31 AM**

Hey Sonnie thanks for your persistance with this BSE2496 potential product. I have emailed Behringer a while ago and will again. I cant see how they can keep ignoring the potential sales here.

**Sonnie** · **02-19-08, 11:54 PM**

I wish I could say we had a chance at this product, but I have been feeling for a while like Toshiba is feeling about HD-DVD.

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