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post #101 of 144 Old 04-28-14, 04:21 PM
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Re: What turntable do you still use?

I've got a Kenwood KD-2000 that I use right now.

My rebuilt AR XA is headed back to me from Marc Morin. I should have it on Friday.

I'll post pics once I have enough forum-cred here at HTS.
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The original model (AR/XA) had the sharp square corners you mention. I had one (still have a spare headshell and a Lyrelift for it in a box here). Mine is a later model.
Hi Bob,

Do you still have your Lyrelift? Do you have any pictures that you could post of it? I have a Colton varilift but it looks a little clunky so I'm trying to see what else is out there.
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Thorens TD-126 w/ SME Type III. It's been my weapon of choice for many years.

http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...6-rebuild.html

I recently dug my old 126MKIII out of its box and it still holds speed, but has a couple of other issues. I already picked up a belt and lamp kit from Germany, but I need to do an overhaul. I was pondering on that very thing when I popped over this way to post a comment in another thread. I noticed this one and saw your restoration job - which appears most excellent!

Yours sure looks prettier than mine, and I'm sure it's better behaved (for now).
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This is the first time in million years I am thinking about giving up the vinyl. Digital has indeed come a long way.

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Digital has come a long way, but I've been a fan since the revolution began...which was right on the heels of my purchasing the Thorens. 33 years is a long time, so I'm starting a restoration. I just moved it to the mancave and now it's in pieces. I ordered 13 capacitors today.
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Re: What turntable do you still use?

I have two turntables. The oldest is a Garrard 401 from the 1960s. I bought it NOS off of e-bay in 2006. I built the skeletal plinth since it did not come with one. The two tone arms are a Moerch DP-6 with a 12" arm. I have two different weight arm wands. The other mounted arm is a VPI Classic 12". As you can see in the photo I have a second VPI 12" arm as well. It makes cartridge swapping very quick and easy.

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My second table is a Nakamichi TX-1000 from the early 1980s. The TX-1000 and its little brother, the Dragon CT, are the only two self-centering turntables ever made. Self-centering meaning that it can correct for an off center spindle hole which virtually all LPs have. I found this table buried under a pile of junk in the back of a shop where it had been lying neglected for over eleven years. It needed some TLC and a number of visits to a former Nakamichi service technician (who lives only 7 hours away, thank heavens) to get it running properly. I say thank heavens since the TT weighs over 80 lbs and I don't have the original shipping cartons.

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The tone arms are an Ortofon TA-210 with a 12" arm and a Schroeder Reference.
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My second table is a Nakamichi TX-1000 from the early 1980s.

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I have two turntables. The oldest is a Garrard 401 from the 1960s.

My second table is a Nakamichi TX-1000 from the early 1980s.
The old Garrard is a beaut, but that Nakamichi is very, very special. I remember seeing one at the AAFES Audio Club in Stuttgart back in the early 80s. I wanted one, but it was incredibly expensive. It addresses one of my biggest complaints with vinyl. A demo of its special feature was both fascinating and convincing - it worked. If I could have any turntable I wanted, that would be it. Congratulations on the discovery/acquisition and thank you for putting one of the coolest audio equipment engineering triumphs back on its feet.

I did have a Nakamichi 700ZXL cassette deck for quite a few years. It never needed anything beyond the basic maintenance any such device needs with age.
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Thank you for the kind words. When the TX-1000s were sold in the early 1980s the MSRP was $8,000. As I recall $8,000 at that time would have bought you a very nice automobile.

I agree with you that the self-centering feature is what makes this turntable, and its little brother the Dragon CT (which sold for only $2,000 in the early 1980s), so special. Until you have heard your LPs played without WOW you don't know how much even small amounts of WOW interferes with the music.

As a turntable without the self-centering feature utilized the TX-1000 is an extremely nice turntable. Direct drive with a lot of torque means no speed problems. A while back I had the opportunity to audition the Artemis Labs SA-1 turntable which was designed by Frank Schroeder (of tone arm fame). The SA-1 at that time sold for $8,000. I did multiple A-B-A comparisons over numerous weekends. Moving the Schroeder Reference tone arm back and forth between the two turntables took about 90 seconds due to the fact the arm is surface mounted and the VTA can be quickly reset to a prior setting. My conclusions was that without the self-centering the SA-1 and the TX-1000 sounded virtually alike. There were differences, but nothing that would cause me to chose one over the other. Once you used the self-centering capability of the TX-1000 it was a totally different ball game.

Over the years I have talked to numerous turntable manufacturers about self-centering. With today's micro servos and computers on a chip building self-centering into a turntable is so much easier to implement than in the 1980s. It is not going to happen. All the manufacturers save one said that off-center spindle holes are the record companies' problem. It is not a turntable manufacturer's problem. The one TT manufacturer who said he would look into self-centering developed health problems and ceased production. It looks like unless you have a TX-1000 or a Dragon CT you are stuck with WOW.
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