Salt Water Fuel

[Sonnie]

I imagine one of the big oil companies will buy this guys discovery, but if he's figured it out... surely someone else can.

Salt Water Fuel (wmv file)

[terry j]

cool (joke!)

very incomplete report though, the first and most important question is 'how efficient is the process?'. I can seperate water into hydrogen and oxygen very easily (for example) yet that is of no use as the energy gained when re-combined is less than that expended in the seperation of the water itself.

We need to know the energy equation for this process as well.

Still and all, amazing find.

[lcaillo]

The obvious question is how much feild density does it take to generate significant hydrogen. Where is that much RF power going to come from? Seems like collecting solar energy to produce hydrogen would be much more efficient, and even that does not make sense at this time.

I recall a guy who made a VW engine run on hydrogen for a science project back in the mid 1970s at my high school. Same problem existed then as now, the energy needed to produce the hydrogen cost a lot more than gas, so running on water was not econmic.

[alan monro]

Sonnie . I remember Tesla doing some "secret" work for a government regarding rf energy and water to produce free energy . Maybe he perfected a similar process but like a lot of inventions , if it affects the sales of petroleum , the inventions disappear and sometimes the inventor . Such as In Australia a bloke invented a boat propeller , it was on a tv program called 'the inventors' . They tested it and it gave a 100% increase in efficiency . The oil companies brought his invention and it disappeared . Another person invented an add on to a car that doubled the cars efficiency , he was invited by an oil company , (i think it was Shell) , to go for a cruise and talk about selling his invention . He unfortunately fell of the boat and was lost at sea at the same time his workshop exploded and all his notes were destroyed . That is very bad luck . So i can see his treatment for cancer being allowed . alan.

[Sonnie]

Yep... I just don't ever see a bona fide invention making it that would replace a huge chunk of the oil used in our society. It would cost too many people way too much money. You start taking money out of all those pockets... sumtin gon be hittin' da fan!

[lcaillo]

Sorry, I don't buy the oil company conspiracy stuff. If there is a buck to be made off of it, someone will build it. Most of these myths surround a nice idea that runs up against the laws of physics and thermodynamics. Hydrogen power is a perfect example. There is only so much energy available in a chemical bond between hydrogen and oxygen atoms. Guess what. The amount of energy is the same to break them apart as you get when burning hydrogen to make water. If you are going to use it to do work, even in a theoretical 100% efficient system, there will always be energy needed to add to the system. There is not a free ride. We have been cheating with fossi fuels for a century or so, and that works out to be cheap because nature stored lots of enery over millions of years.

[drf]

whilst I think 90% of oil company conspiracy theory is just urban myth, it would unwise to think an enterprise as big as that would not be active in protecting its profits from the more realistic threats.

No one gets "silently removed from the picture" for boasting a perpetual motion discovery, except maybe to be commited. Any genuine discoveries, that would prove a hinderance to oil company profits, may well be aggressively bought and shelved.