Ideas for front mains

**jackfish** · **06-08-07, 09:49 PM**

I like the idea of the http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=295-300 with the 4500 Hz crossover, http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=260-148 . This driver should handle the higher XO point and provide fuller, better transitioned midrange at that point.

**Mongrel714** · **06-08-07, 10:25 PM**

Thanks for the input jackfish, I've looked at that, its a good looking speaker, So many choices, I've posted my preliminary plans, and now more questions, do I need to add up the enclosure specs of all drivers and build the enclosure accordingly? also adding the port volumes? I'm looking forward to your replys, looks like its coming together! later all

**Mongrel714** · **06-09-07, 07:15 AM**

I don't have to squeeze the last bit of spl out of this system allthough it would be nice to have, I really want something that has a better sound than my little Onkyo mains and looks very good from the DIY standpoint, and I do wish to upgrade as I go, and, as many of you I'm sure, I will be building speaker enclosures as long as I can , I love this hobby, so building new enclosures won't be an issue with me,
so, I have my drivers narrowed down to two choices , the Dayton aluminum cone which looks great and matches the original concept of this project visually, and the above mentioned Dayton paper cone which has slightly higher specs.
As for the tweets I may just use the PT2's untill I can afford to get all the planer tweets I need, I can make the cutout for the planers and do a seperate baffle for the domes. I didnt know this would be so involved but I like the challenge!! Keeps the voices in my head down to a dull roar, LOL

Oh ya, i would like a ported design.

**Mongrel714** · **06-15-07, 07:35 PM**

Hey guys, sorry Ive been away, works been hectic this week, I did manage to make a set of speaker brackets to hang my side surrounds, will be starting on my enclosures in the next few days, enlisted the help of one of our marine mechanics who has a nice set of gravity feed paint guns to lay down some laquer on these babys, can't wait to start!

**Mongrel714** · **06-18-07, 08:00 PM**

Thanks for that rebutal, Seeing as this is a home theater set up, We'll be listening sitting down the majority of the time, and, I am leaving room for upgrade, the design is not concrete yet anyway. As for SPL, well, coming from an old roadband with 15000 watts of QSC power and standing in front of a marshall double stack for 18 years, I am a little deaf, so I tend not to turn it up tooo loud, at least not as much, huh? what did U say??

Oh yea, I guess saying this in this forum is a nono, but I also had a blazer that hit 142 DB with 2 12" Fosgates and Hi fonics power.

**Mongrel714** · **07-28-07, 10:30 PM**

Hello guys, its been awhile, been on a sub build, you can see the project over in the soundsplinter thread, I am about ready to start planning for my mains,but would like to stay within the design constraints of my sub, I have a prelininary design I'm working on and will post tomorrow, later!

**Mongrel714** · **07-29-07, 02:49 PM**

First off I want to thank everyone who helped with information here, especially thylantyr, I've learned so much and still have a ways to go.
Looking at this new design, I'm not sure I like it as much as the original one in this thread, even though it does not match the sub, so what do you all think, match the sub or go with the orig design??
The sub as you can see still needs to be painted, but is shaking pictures off my wall.

**Rodny Alvarez** · **07-29-07, 02:59 PM**

That will be a nice set of mains!!!

**Mongrel714** · **07-29-07, 04:07 PM**

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Rodny Alvarez wrote:

That will be a nice set of mains!!!

So Rodney, I take it you vote to stick with the theme of the sub??

**Rodny Alvarez** · **07-29-07, 04:33 PM**

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Mongrel714 wrote:

So Rodney, I take it you vote to stick with the theme of the sub??

Black with the front silver(base/clear coat)

**Rodny Alvarez** · **07-29-07, 04:37 PM**

What program/software are you using to make the design?

**Mongrel714** · **07-29-07, 05:29 PM**

Rodney, I'm using Corel Draw for the general design, then Adobe Photoshop for the coloring / gradiets,
And DS-21, I'm open to suggestions on the drivers, the planers were just a hold over from the line array earlier in this thread, I want these to sound as good as my budget can afford, I suppose I can put 4-500 dollars toward the drivers at this point, I realize X-overs are a problem, Ide lik to find a X-over pre made to start with that would suffice untill I know more about building them.
The Acendants are very cool looking, as far as the top baffle, that can be isolated from the main enclosure.

**Mongrel714** · **07-30-07, 04:18 PM**

Guys, are there any decent 5-7" drivers that resemble the Sound Splinters? the only thing I've found so far are the Hi-Vi (?) that P X-press offers and I dont think they would fit the bill, any help would be appreciated!

**JCD** · **07-30-07, 07:14 PM**

By resemble, do you mean physically?

In any case, I'd take another look at Zaphaudio -- he has a listing of several drivers and their relative merits. The prices may be a little out of date, but they should give you an idea.

Also, you may not need to go so big. The line array I'm building right now is using these: Aurasound NS3-194-8E 3" full range paper cone. and a horn tweeter to handle the top 1.5 octaves. Note: I'll be boosting the bottom end to get a flat response down to ~80Hz. With so many drivers, I think you can manipulate the FR curve with less detrimental results than only one or two.

JCD

**JCD** · **07-30-07, 07:14 PM**

Oh, and that sub is wicked looking!

JCD

**Mongrel714** · **07-30-07, 08:21 PM**

Thanks JCD, wait till its painted!! Ya, I did mean physically look like the S. Splinter, Alum cone no dust cap, I'm actually pulling away from the array project at the moment and going with a couple good drivers and a tweet per side, Ill do the Hmm.. or maybe a hybrid wouldnt be so bad right now.

**JCD** · **07-31-07, 04:53 PM**

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Mongrel714 wrote:

Ya, I did mean physically look like the S. Splinter, Alum cone no dust cap

Hmm.. that's a tough one. I can think of a handful of drivers out there that have an alumuminum cone, but they all either have a phase plug (e.g., some of the drivers from Seas) or they have a black dust cap (e.g., the on from Dayton). That may be a tough nut to crack.

In any case, I look forward to your future progress.

JCD

**Mongrel714** · **07-31-07, 05:40 PM**

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JCD wrote:

Hmm.. that's a tough one. I can think of a handful of drivers out there that have an alumuminum cone, but they all either have a phase plug (e.g., some of the drivers from Seas) or they have a black dust cap (e.g., the on from Dayton). That may be a tough nut to crack.

In any case, I look forward to your future progress.

JCD

Thanks JCD, I checked out Zaph audio and learned alot, but there is only one driver that resembles my sub and it prob won't do the trick, no worries though, we'll find something here!

**JCD** · **07-31-07, 05:58 PM**

I'm sure you will too.. it just takes time.

But to be clear, something like this is what you're looking for?

or would something like this be ok?

JCD

**Mongrel714** · **07-31-07, 09:31 PM**

Heres a pic of what I'm looking for,actually this speaker looks pretty good on paper, please give me your thoughts on this and on having 3 mid bass and 1 tweeter, also which tweet, I would like to stay around 50-75 bucks apiece for tweets, here is what the outside dimensions will be on the enclosure.

**Mongrel714** · **08-01-07, 04:15 PM**

Heres final design, the inside volume can be adjusted as needed, I've been reading alot at Zaph audio and will prob use one of his suggestions for drivers and X-over, I will prob build these before I paint the sub so I can do em all at once.

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