ART Cleanbox frequency response

[pbc]

Ilkka,

Have you tried sending the above shots to Velodyne to get there response? Would this be a software fix or would a resolder/new capacitator fix be needed similar to the ART?

Tx

[JimP]

Over on AVS, Velodyne posted that they were going to update the firmware to allow you to eliminate the subsonic filter which should improve the shape of that curve.

[Ilkka]

pbc wrote:

Ilkka,

Have you tried sending the above shots to Velodyne to get there response? Would this be a software fix or would a resolder/new capacitator fix be needed similar to the ART?

Tx

I haven't sent them, but Velodyne is well aware of the situation. Here's their response (copy/paste from AVS forum):

"The big concern here is some DIYer's want flat response to 5hz or even DC. The current SMS-1 has been designed for the more normal user. There are very few subs that have much energy below 20hz and the SMS is fairly flat to 20hz and not down very much at 15 hz. IMO, it's not wise to eliminate some sort of protection via a subsonic filter or other filtering. However, as I told you we will weigh the pros and cons and demands and address it at a future date. In your case with your bass reflex design subwoofer tuned to 20hz you would not notice any difference at all. Bass reflex designs have an 18db roll-off below tuning frequency and you should not (boost) eq at or below that tuning point. A few DIYer's with several large drivers in a very large enclosure (Infinite Baffle) want to try for flat output down to or below 10 hz. This can certainly lead to problems in the wrong hands. As Art points out humans don't hear much below 25-30hz and even then the signal would have to be at a very high amplitude with very low harmonic distortion to be audible."

But as Jim said, they have promised a firmware update that should completely bypass the subsonic filter. I will measure the frequency response with the newest firmware when it's available.

[brucek]

My goodness..... what a condescending response......

has been designed for the more normal user

DIY'ers aren't normal?

This can certainly lead to problems in the wrong hands.

They're worried the children will hurt themselves. Next they'll be advising not to run with scissors.

As Art points out humans don't hear much below 25-30hz

I would say both Velo and ART are completely missing the point......

brucek

[Ilkka]

brucek wrote:

DIY'ers aren't normal?

You might want to take that back?

I would say both Velo and ART are completely missing the point......

I think he meant some person named Art in the AVS thread where from I copied that reply. But that goes as well with the ART too though...

[pbc]

Thanks Ilkka. Will be interesting to see if they come up with this firmware.

PBC

[scottrichardson]

I just ordered one of these:

http://www.samsontech.com/products/p...fm?prodID=1699

... Rather than the ARt Clean Box. In the specs, it has full frequency response down to 10Hz.

Anyone else here used one of these?

[Mika75]

Send a quick pm to WmAx he's a member here who uses and recommends the device ...& his audio-related knowledge is second to none