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Old 06-04-08, 09:22 AM   #1 (Link)
 
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Connecting a Denon receiver to a Behringer 2500?


Is there a link? Is it just a cable adapter from RCA? what do i need to get to make this amp work to power a sub?

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Re: Connecting a Denon receiver to a Behringer 2500?


I don't have a Behringer 2500 ... but I read before that if one component has RCA's and the other has 1/4 phone, XLR, etc. you need to get a cable that combine both (RCA one end and 1/4, XLR, etc. at the other end.)


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is that all i need? is there anything else i need to know?

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Re: Connecting a Denon receiver to a Behringer 2500?


You can make such a cable yourself with minimal soldering skills or purchase one. Occasionally, some people get a ground loop hum created by this conversion. If this becomes an issue for you there are steps that can be taken to alleviate it, but I wouldn't worry about it until you find out if it is an issue for you or not.

Here is an RCA to XLR schematic: http://www.mediacollege.com/audio/co...xlr-rca-1.html


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Re: Connecting a Denon receiver to a Behringer 2500?



The best way to avoid a ground loop is to not jump between pins 1 & 3, as mediacollege recommends. Rane recommends using a two-conductor shielded cable and floating the shield at the RCA end.

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Re: Connecting a Denon receiver to a Behringer 2500?


any recommendations or links for the cables?


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Re: Connecting a Denon receiver to a Behringer 2500?


I love being able to search threads to find what I need on this site! Tys, your question is exactly the same as mine. I've been told that in addition to requiring an rca to xlr/trs cable (or an rca to xlr/trs adapter for one end of an rca cable) that the line levels of the receiver lfe channel out may not be enough for the 2500. does anyone have any experience with whether or not this is actually the case, and if so what's the solution? Thanks.


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Re: Connecting a Denon receiver to a Behringer 2500?


Doesn't the Behringer not have 1/4" inputs on the back. if so then it should simply take an RCA to 1/4" adapter
This will automatically set the amp to an unbalanced signal.


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Looking at the specs from the behringer site, it states that it has balanced xlr or 1/4 trs inputs. If I go with a 1/4 adapter for an rca cable as the input to the ep2500 from my amp will that be sufficient to drive the amp? thanks.


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You may have to increase the sub output level in the receiver a little but you should be fine.


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great, thanks!


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Looking at the specs from the behringer site, it states that it has balanced xlr or 1/4 trs inputs. If I go with a 1/4 adapter for an rca cable as the input to the ep2500 from my amp will that be sufficient to drive the amp? thanks.
Hi All, Im a little confused . I just picked up a EP1500 and was wondering if i used a 1/4 adapter to RCA is this the way id have to wire it? http://www.mediacollege.com/audio/co...reo-rca-2.html Is the 1/4 adapter need to be stereo or mono? From the wiring diagram above im assuming its stereo, wich would mean this is only connection needed i wouldnt have to do it 2 times?? After doing this then i could hook up 2 speakers to wiring post on EP1500 to get stereo out of it ?? Thanks for any help.


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I just picked up a EP1500 and was wondering if i used a 1/4 adapter to RCA is this the way id have to wire it?
No, that's not how to wire it.

The EP1500 is a two channel amplifier. Each of its inputs are able to accept either balanced or unbalanced connections.

An RCA connection is considered unbalanced. If you wish to connect an unbalanced RCA cable from your processor to a channel of the EP1500, you need to use a 1/4" TS phone plug (the TS stands for tip-sleeve). You may use an RCA Jack To 1/4" Mono Plug Adapter for this job or purchase a RCA to 1/4" TS phone cable.

You would use one of these adapters on each of the two channels (assuming the EP1500 is in two-channel mode and not in bridge or parallel mode).

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What brucek said. Personally I like to see people get cables with the correct connectors on both ends rather than use the adapters:




You can probably find some at your local guitar shop. Here are a few sources for these cables ranging from cheap to expensive:

http://www.music123.com/Product/Product.aspx?SKU=128202

http://www.zzounds.com/cat--1-4-Inch...A-Cables--2363

http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/RCA-to-1-4.html

http://www.audio-discounters.com/pprc-j05.html

http://www.guitarcenter.com/shop/pro...49&src=4WFRWXX

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...09&src=3WFRWXX


What will you be using the amp for?

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What brucek said. Personally I like to see people get cables with the correct connectors on both ends rather than use the adapters:




You can probably find some at your local guitar shop. Here are a few sources for these cables ranging from cheap to expensive:

http://www.music123.com/Product/Product.aspx?SKU=128202

http://www.zzounds.com/cat--1-4-Inch...A-Cables--2363

http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/RCA-to-1-4.html

http://www.audio-discounters.com/pprc-j05.html

http://www.guitarcenter.com/shop/pro...49&src=4WFRWXX

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...09&src=3WFRWXX


What will you be using the amp for?

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I have to RTI-150s 500 watt that id like to run the ep 1500 to . If i got these connectors then i could run in stereo , Im not looking to bridge. Just trying to get more power to 2 speakers so they dont distort when volume is up. I have a yamaha RX-V457 thats only 85 wpc..... Ok im looking at pic this cable 1/4 jack isnt stereo correct it is mono?


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Ok im looking at pic this cable 1/4 jack isnt stereo correct it is mono?
This isn't a "stereo" vs. "mono" connection. All amplifier inputs are mono, be they pro, commercial or consumer. Rather, it's "balanced" vs. unbalanced." It just so happens both types can be done with 1/4" connectors. The "stereo" plug (aka TRS or "tip, ring, sleeve") would be used for a balanced signal, with the three connection points as signal (+), signal (-) and shield. Notice this is not stereo, because there is no "signal left and right." The "mono" plug (aka TS or "tip, sleeve") is used for unbalanced, where the two connection points are signal (+), and combined shield/signal (-).

It's just part of the confusion we get because the audio industry, both consumer and professional, has historically (and foolishly) had a penchant for using the same type of connector for a variety applications, instead of dedicating particular connectors to specific applications like they should have. For instance, further adding to the confusion, many pro audio amps also use the 1/4" connectors for speaker outputs, too. So you end up having cables with the same connectors for both the signal inputs and speaker ouputs.

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Waynes quite right, but I suspect where 'Chicago' became confused was the rather silly way that Behringer describes 1/4" TRS phone plugs as stereo 1/4" TRS inputs. This mislabelling is derived from the multiple use of the TRS connector on stereo headphones, where in fact the tip is one channel and the sleeve is the other channel. It simply does not apply here.

From the 1500 manual in part:
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Waynes quite right, but I suspect where 'Chicago' became confused was the rather silly way that Behringer describes 1/4" TRS phone plugs as stereo 1/4" TRS inputs. This mislabelling is derived from the multiple use of the TRS connector on stereo headphones, where in fact the tip is one channel and the sleeve is the other channel. It simply does not apply here.

From the 1500 manual in part:
Attachment 8162

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Thanks Bruce ,yes it is confusing. I went out and bought the set thats above(very similar) Basically since its mono 1 1/4 jack goes to input of amp and same as the 2nd input. Wasnt sure if it would play stereo through just one 1/4 jack didnt make sesne .Thanks Bruce and Wayne for clearing this up for me .


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Thanks Bruce ,yes it is confusing. I went out and bought the set thats above(very similar) Basically since its mono 1 1/4 jack goes to input of amp and same as the 2nd input. Wasnt sure if it would play stereo through just one 1/4 jack didnt make sesne .Thanks Bruce and Wayne for clearing this up for me .
Ok need little more help .Just got the amp and they left out the ENGLISH VERSION. Just to make sure i hook up right heres a pic of back of my AV can you terll me were i hook up to please?
http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/...202163,00.html Thanks Guys my guess is a pre amp is needed????


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Or a receiver with pre-amp outputs. Many have them these days, a shame yours doesn't...

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