Blu-ray players

[santora]

Th8ter Nut wrote:

The Panny DMP-BD10AK can internally decode True HD but not DTS-Master HD.

But it still can't get it out to a Receiver/decoder for 7.1, right? I was under the impression that the new Blu Ray spec, 1.1, will fix this. Doesn't it down convert it to 5.1 to go out? That's one of the many reasons I've been waiting on Blu Ray.

[Th8ter Nut]

santora wrote:

But it still can't get it out to a Receiver/decoder for 7.1, right? I was under the impression that the new Blu Ray spec, 1.1, will fix this. Doesn't it down convert it to 5.1 to go out? That's one of the many reasons I've been waiting on Blu Ray.

It can either through HDMI or 7.1 analog if your recevier has 7.1 analog inputs. If it is HDMI it will say PCM since the decoding is being performed in the player and not the receiver. I think what will fix it is HDMI 1.3a outputs on the HD DVD or Blu-Ray player. I am with you on the waiting. I have the Onkyo 905 which will decode both True HD and DTS Master HD if they will ever make a player that will send to it.

[santora]

Th8ter Nut wrote:

It can either through HDMI or 7.1 analog if your recevier has 7.1 analog inputs. If it is HDMI it will say PCM since the decoding is being performed in the player and not the receiver. I think what will fix it is HDMI 1.3a outputs on the HD DVD or Blu-Ray player. I am with you on the waiting. I have the Onkyo 905 which will decode both True HD and DTS Master HD if they will ever make a player that will send to it.

Alright. That makes sense. So if it is being decoded in the player it is 5.1, but if the handshake of the 1.3 HDMI works, then it is decoded in the receiver and then you get the 7.1.

strangely, I'm currently debating between the Onkyo 905/875/805. I know the chipset for uprezing is different. Any thoughts you'd care to share on the 905?

[Th8ter Nut]

santora wrote:

Alright. That makes sense. So if it is being decoded in the player it is 5.1, but if the handshake of the 1.3 HDMI works, then it is decoded in the receiver and then you get the 7.1.

strangely, I'm currently debating between the Onkyo 905/875/805. I know the chipset for uprezing is different. Any thoughts you'd care to share on the 905?

It will still be 7.1 if decoded in the player but it has to flow from the player to the receiver with either HDMI or 7.1 analog. Of course if the receiver only has 5.1 analog inputs then you will only get 5.1.

Regarding the Onkyo's I chose the 905 because I wanted the Reon processor for upconverting SD. When I purchased mine there was only $200 difference in price. I am glad I did now because the 905 has adjustments on the Reon that the 875 does not. Also HD radio, and it will play mp3's from from PC over the network which inturn will feed my whole house system. Also the power transformer is much better than in the 875.

[Tommy]

Have you seen the Onkyo player coming out on HD DVD it has HDMI 1.3

[santora]

Tommy wrote:

Have you seen the Onkyo player coming out on HD DVD it has HDMI 1.3

Looks good. But I can't really see myself investing in a stand along player in either format until we're a bit farther into this "format war." I'll most likely get a PS3 in the next couple of months, but it'll be to watch movies, not to play games (yet). And the only reason to go with it is simply because there will be games I eventually want o play on it and as far as the Blu Ray spec, it should be able to keep up with 1.1 and further.

[Th8ter Nut]

Tommy wrote:

Have you seen the Onkyo player coming out on HD DVD it has HDMI 1.3

Isn't it kind of expensive compared to the new Toshiba's coming out this fall?

[Tommy]

Th8ter Nut wrote:

Isn't it kind of expensive compared to the new Toshiba's coming out this fall?

Your definitely paying extra towards the brand name but besides that which tosh are you comparing it to and does it have the same features or not? The MSRP of the HD-XA2 is $800

Also I think this is the first player that will support HDMI 1.3

[santora]

Onkyo equipment tends to run a touch on the pricey side (for their non low end electronics), because they go the extra mile putting it together. Huge heat sinks, larger capacitors with better range, etc. My Onkyo receiver's a tank (literally). But it's THX certified, has dual room signal, and 100 watts per channel (6.1). BTW, the unit is seven or eight years old and it still sounds better than most of the crap I hear at Best buy and Circuit City.

Onkyo is worth the premium. I actually like their stuff better than Denon. But that's my opinion.

[Th8ter Nut]

I agree with you about the Onkyo receivers as I own a 905 myself. The Toshiba's I am referring to are the new 3rd gens. Specifically the A-35, this player will do 24 FPS, and should be able to pass True HD and DTS Master on to a capable receiver. It lists for $499, I am an Onkyo fan but can't see paying the extra $300 for a player that should perform just as well.

[Sonnie]

Hey guys... we need to start a new thread about the new Onkyo player since this is a "Blu-ray players" thread. Thanks!

[bill-merritt]

Wayde wrote:

are there any BD players on the market today that can do the following...

1080/24 output through HDMI
+
Decode TrueHD/DTS HD

I don't even care about HDMI 1.3, as long as it can decode interally it can send the high resolution uncompressed sound to my receiver via analogue cables and I'm all set. My receiver doesn't have HDMI and I'm not about to get one over this.

However, I do notice that some of the BD discs for sale are doing 5.1 PCM uncompressed soundtracks. The new James Bond movie Casino Royale is an example. Is it possible that BD is shying away from the codecs to do this PCM thing?

Any suggestions on BD player would be appreciated. I'm testing a few now, I am auditioning the Pioneer BDP-HD50-K. (I think the -K just means it's Kanadian because I think the US model has no -K).

I don't think I'll keep this disc player though, it's going back... I just hooked it all up and started reading the docs, it doesn't decode TrueHD or DTS HD. But it does True24FPS.

Yes, the BDP1400 with new firmware will do it all provided you have a receiver that can handle it like the new Onkyo's. It looks like upgrade to newer receiver is what it would take in your case.

[RollsRoyce]

The 1400 with the firmware update only passes DTS-HD MA and HR as "bitstream" through HDMI for decoding by a receiver/pre-pro. It doesn't decode it in the player. On the other hand, it does decode Dolby DD+ and TrueHD and can send them out via analog and HDMI.