GIK product info

**John N** · **01-26-08, 02:39 PM**

pre order price ?
post order price?

**srckkmack** · **01-27-08, 01:23 AM**

I've been thinkin' about it.

**bpape** · **01-29-08, 12:02 PM**

OK. Here's the deal. The Pillars will likely retail at $299 each with GOM cloth standard and your choice of stain color.

As a preorder/introductory price, we'll be selling them at $275 each.

You can call the 800 number to do the preorder as it's not on our site yet. Mention that you're from Home Theater Shack.

Thanks for all of your support.

Bryan

**omholt** · **02-10-08, 03:20 PM**

I assume the pillars are not Helmholtz resonaters? More info on the web page on measurements and pictures that show how they really look with different frames and fabric would be nice.

Also another question: Is there a reason to hang the Tri-Traps? I would assume they work better as basstraps placed on the floor?

**bpape** · **02-10-08, 04:18 PM**

The Pillars are not Helmholz. They are broadband like the Tri Traps. We haven't sent the Pillars to the lab yet - we've just been slammed over the holidays and then with the new product introductions.

I think Glenn is going to have some more photos taken of some of the other color combinations though not sure if they'll be of pillars or 242 Elites.

The Tri Traps are not designed to be hung - but some people have done it with brackets. They were designed to be set on the floor and/or stacked on each other.

Bryan

**Glenn Kuras** · **02-11-08, 08:55 AM**

Yea the plan is to take some more pictures as soon as we get few more of the piano finish for the elites and the stands. Big problem is we are getting a ton of orders with the piano black so keeping one around is a straggle in itself. Guess a good problem to have.

Glenn

**srckkmack** · **02-14-08, 12:17 PM**

These pillars look really nice.
Are the pillars absorption equal to the Tri-Traps?
In other words, would I have balanced absorption if I put a pillar in a front corner and tri-trap in the other front corner? Or would your recommend both being the same?

**bpape** · **02-14-08, 01:18 PM**

Symmetry in the front is always important. We've not tested the Pillars yet officially but in theory, they should actually outperform the Tri Traps in the deep bass.

Bryan

**bpape** · **03-14-08, 04:09 PM**

Just another teaser....

The prototype for our new diffusor. Solid maple and stainable to match the Pillar and the 242 Elite

**srckkmack** · **03-14-08, 10:52 PM**

Looks nice.
How do you determine if you should be using absorption or diffusion?

**bpape** · **03-15-08, 08:45 AM**

That's what Glenn hires ME for

In many rooms, it's usually a combination of both. It all depends on the room, the layout, the size of the room, the usage, etc. If you have something specific you're considering, I'd be happy to take a look. You can either PM me, or start a thread and we can do it in the forum for all to learn from.

Bryan

**darwin** · **03-15-08, 10:46 AM**

Very nice! Is there any chance that these can be offered in the raw for those folks who would like to do their own finishing?

**DVDIT** · **04-05-08, 06:11 AM**

Quote:

OvalNut wrote:

About a third of the way into the following thread, you'll find how I mounted some Tri-Traps up in the corners. I think you're looking more for how to do it horizontally, but this may help get ideas flowing:

Oval's Nutty Room Gets the Treatment from GIK Acoustics

Tim

Why mount the Tri-Traps ? Any benefit vs. leaving them on the floor?

**OvalNut** · **04-05-08, 11:17 AM**

In that example, I mounted it up because the corner below it, which you can't see in that picture, is dominated by a cold air return that the Tri-Trap would have covered up, and the TV sits in that corner. So, mounting the Tr-Trap up gave me as much corner coverage as possible there. Also, elsewhere in that thread you'll see where I mounted another Tri-Trap up over a counter in a corner.

There is a third Tri-Trap in a rear corner that is actually on the ground.

... Just trying to get as much corner coverage as possible in the room based on the layout of the speakers/components.

Tim

**DVDIT** · **04-05-08, 12:08 PM**

Thanks Tim.
I am about to order two Tri-Traps and two 244 bass traps to address some of the overpowering bass response and to improve the overall sound quality in my HT room. I am going to put the Tri-traps in the front corner behind the front speakers. As for the 244 bass traps, I am not sure if I should put them on the floor behind my equipment rack and which is below the front projection screen or if I should hang them on the back wall. If I hang them on the back wall, then I have to move my surround back dipole speakers from their current position 60" off from the floor to 72" off the floor. Even then I can only get the 244s 24" from the floor and in this case the couch would cover part of the 244s. If I could put the 244 on the floor and behind the couch, then I can add two more 244s without having any issue with my other half. I am just not sure if the performance would be hindered if I place them on the floor. So which route should I go? Two Tri-traps in the front corner and 244s on the front, on the floor behind the equipment rack and two more 244s against the back wall, again on the floor OR two tri-traps in the front corner and two 244s on the back wall 24" from the floor? Which would yield a better coverage/performance? Thanks.

**bpape** · **04-05-08, 12:20 PM**

I'd go with them on the back wall. Having them on the front will help with surround reflections in general but puts all your bass control in one place. Having a pair in back and up a bit, helps with nulls off the back wall, kills slap opposite the screen, and spreads bass control around a bit to be more effective in general.

In addition, surrounds should be up higher unless you primarily do surround music listening - then they'd be lower. If it's primarily HT, then 72-78" off the floor to the speakers' acoustical center is the proper mounting height.

Bryan

**DVDIT** · **04-05-08, 07:17 PM**

Quote:

bpape wrote:

I'd go with them on the back wall. Having them on the front will help with surround reflections in general but puts all your bass control in one place. Having a pair in back and up a bit, helps with nulls off the back wall, kills slap opposite the screen, and spreads bass control around a bit to be more effective in general.

In addition, surrounds should be up higher unless you primarily do surround music listening - then they'd be lower. If it's primarily HT, then 72-78" off the floor to the speakers' acoustical center is the proper mounting height.

Bryan

You're the man! I am going to go with your suggestion. The 72-78" off the floor, is it from the floor to bottom of speakers or top of the speaker?

**bpape** · **04-14-08, 09:55 AM**

Sorry - not getting all my notifications for some reason.

Distance is to the acoustic center of the speakers.

Bryan

**bpape** · **06-14-08, 08:23 AM**

OK - a new update. The latest product from GIK - the Table Trap

We're investigating different sizes but we're starting with something small that will easily fit in most situations - potentially even in between 2 recliners. Solid chunk style absorbtion open on all 4 sides just like the Pillar.

Retail is $399. Introductory price is $299.

Bryan

**omholt** · **06-14-08, 08:27 AM**

Where must the Table Trap ble placed for good absorbation? I assume you can't place it anywhere and expect a great result.

**bpape** · **06-14-08, 08:30 AM**

Well, corners are generally the most efficient since they're at the end of all 3 dimensions. However, in cases where your seating is back in the room, you're still at the end of the height and length - and likely at 1/2 of the width so you'll get the harmonics of that dimension.

From a decay time standpoint, it'll work pretty much anywhere and having it away from a boundary allows 3 or 4 sides to be exposed for additional efficiency.

Bryan

**pranab.beriya** · **06-18-08, 02:37 AM**

Hey can u suggest me the best & cheapest way to reduce the sound from going to the above flat, below flat and the next flat in my same floor....

**bpape** · **06-18-08, 06:11 AM**

That really needs to be in a different thread. I'll be happy to help you but I'll need a lot more information.

Bryan

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