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post #1 of 37 Old 08-30-16, 11:33 AM Thread Starter
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Room Problem- should I buy Martin Logan ESLs?

I have a room problem. Contemplating purchasing Martin Logan EM ESLs for my den. Problem is room is only 12' wide and my left speaker will have to be placed behind a sidewall sofa arm which is 23" high. Bottom 23" of speaker will be firing into side of sofa arm (see photo). This means 500hz and below woofer section (and a bit of the upper ESL section) are hidden from view at MLP. Right speaker is in the clear. Have 110" Stewart screen so cannot move speakers toward center.

Can this work? Or will I be unable to create left to right soundstage and also lose left speaker response below 500hz?
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post #2 of 37 Old 08-30-16, 11:43 AM
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Re: Room Problem- should I buy Martin Logan ESLs?

In an ideal world yes this is not an ideal placement but stereo imaging below 500Hz is not very common because those frequencys become far less directional. The current setup in the picture is not perfect but we all make sacrifices to make rooms work. Do you have an option of testing the EM ESLs? This could be beneficial in making the decision.

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Re: Room Problem- should I buy Martin Logan ESLs?

I suspect you'll end up dissatisfied. The sub driver will be firing directly into the sofa, part of the electrostatic transducer will be blocked by the arm of the couch and both speakers will be too close to a side wall. Then there's the question of what do you use for a center.

Due to how they work, electrostatic's need room to breath. Place them close to any type of boundary and you're likely to be unhappy with the outcome.
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Re: Room Problem- should I buy Martin Logan ESLs?

I'd lose the couch.


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Re: Room Problem- should I buy Martin Logan ESLs?

Thank you everybody above with your input-

Have to keep couch for family reasons.

Speaker front will be 48" from rear wall so that should be ok. Right speaker is 8" from side wall with 4" thick GIK panel so one foot away. Left speaker which has heavy duty drape is about 18" from side wall. That is best I can do.

I have auditioned these speakers at local dealer and was really impressed; really want to make them work. The Canadian Waveform speakers you see in photo are conventional front firers, are 15 years old so I want a change.

I plan to go back to dealer and put a 23" box in front of left speaker and see how that sounds.

I am planning to purchase dealer recommended center EM-C2.

Any more comments are appreciated.
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Re: Room Problem- should I buy Martin Logan ESLs?

I would have to say no also. Your room is just not wide enough even with no couch as you need to place the speakers on the sides of the huge screen. Placement is key for those speakers. What is the point of getting Panel speakers if you can't place them.
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Re: Room Problem- should I buy Martin Logan ESLs?

15 year old speakers are barely broken in. Mine are over 30 and still sound as good if not better than they did new.
Im really starting to agree with others. those ESLs need more room to breath in order to sound like they did in the demo. Im very surprised given the info you have given us that the dealer is even recommending them.

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Im very surprised given the info you have given us that the dealer is even recommending them.
Are you familiar with the term "commission"?
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Re: Room Problem- should I buy Martin Logan ESLs?

I hate to pile on but like everyone else I don't see a fit with those speakers and your room. With your room only being 12' wide and the size of the screen there really doesn't appear to be a workable solution.
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Are you familiar with the term "commission"?


And my other favorite. Up sell!!!!!!!(cheerleader voice) yay!!!
I agree with the guys. There are more reasons not to buy them than reasons you should.


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