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Old 07-31-09, 10:36 PM   #1
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Oh No, My 2 year old did it again!


My 2 year old managed to pull the cover off of my prized Mission 765 towers in our theater room and pushed in BADLY the dust caps on both drivers and the Tweeter I am so upset. I managed to get the tweeters dust cap out however the top drivers cap is pushed in so far that it is coming off the cone (the glue is showing) . I dont know what to do. I simply cant afford to replace them as to get anything like them it would have to be between $1500 and $2000 I dont have the cash and then I would have miss matched speakers.
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2 Audio control C131 EQ's, Toshiba XA2, Samsung BDP1400, Pioneer LD
Sanyo Z4 pj, Viewsonic N3235w 32" HDTV

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Old 07-31-09, 10:51 PM   #2
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Dust caps can be replaced. Can you post a pic of the damage?


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Old 08-01-09, 12:49 AM   #3
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This is the top driver, the lower one is also pushed in but its not peeling away from the cone.



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2 Audio control C131 EQ's, Toshiba XA2, Samsung BDP1400, Pioneer LD
Sanyo Z4 pj, Viewsonic N3235w 32" HDTV

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Old 08-01-09, 03:20 AM   #4
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What is the diameter of the dust cap and are the drivers still functional?


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Old 08-01-09, 12:10 PM   #5
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Thanks Mike for your help with this.

The dust caps are 2" and the drivers seem to be ok other than the caps being pushed in.


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Mission 765 Mains, 4-762i's Surrounds, AR center PSC25, SVS PB13 Ultra & A/D/S MS3u sub
2 Audio control C131 EQ's, Toshiba XA2, Samsung BDP1400, Pioneer LD
Sanyo Z4 pj, Viewsonic N3235w 32" HDTV

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Old 08-01-09, 10:27 PM   #6
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Step 5 in the link below shows what's involved and how to remove the dust caps. You have to be comfortable with this. Have a look and see.

http://www.parts-express.com/Tech/260-915.html


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Old 08-02-09, 12:12 AM   #7
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Step 5 in the link below shows what's involved and how to remove the dust caps. You have to be comfortable with this. Have a look and see.

http://www.parts-express.com/Tech/260-915.html
Thanks Mike I will give that a try if I cant suck them out without causing damage. I already tried using some different kinds of tape but so far it wont stick to the cap. I will try the vacuum tomorrow and see what happens.


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Onkyo TXSR805, Samson Servo 4120 4 ch amp bridged @240wattsX2
Mission 765 Mains, 4-762i's Surrounds, AR center PSC25, SVS PB13 Ultra & A/D/S MS3u sub
2 Audio control C131 EQ's, Toshiba XA2, Samsung BDP1400, Pioneer LD
Sanyo Z4 pj, Viewsonic N3235w 32" HDTV

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Yamaha RXV995, Mission 764i's, Yamaha YST FSW100 sub
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Old 08-02-09, 05:55 PM   #8
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After taking the vacuum to the dust covers trying not to suck them completely off the cone they popped out without any noticeable damage to them at all! It seems like the top driver has not pulled away from the glue and the speakers sound none the worse and it ran without any distortion or other problems.


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Onkyo TXSR805, Samson Servo 4120 4 ch amp bridged @240wattsX2
Mission 765 Mains, 4-762i's Surrounds, AR center PSC25, SVS PB13 Ultra & A/D/S MS3u sub
2 Audio control C131 EQ's, Toshiba XA2, Samsung BDP1400, Pioneer LD
Sanyo Z4 pj, Viewsonic N3235w 32" HDTV

Two Channel system:
Yamaha RXV995, Mission 764i's, Yamaha YST FSW100 sub
Yamaha KX-393 Tape deck, CDC 805 CD changer, LG DV7832NXC DVD, Sony turntable PS-T20, Nintendo Wii
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Old 08-02-09, 06:59 PM   #9
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It's good to hear the solution was that simple. Now if there was some way to make the grills non removable.....


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Old 08-02-09, 07:30 PM   #10
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Nice work Tony. Glad it worked out. I am not sure my kids know my grill covers even come off. Let's see how long I can keep it that way.


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Old 08-03-09, 12:43 PM   #11
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It's good to hear the solution was that simple. Now if there was some way to make the grills non removable.....
I have thought of using just a dab of silicone on the rubber inserts that hold them but that may make it to hard to get off in the future.

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Nice work Tony. Glad it worked out. I am not sure my kids know my grill covers even come off. Let's see how long I can keep it that way.
Thanks, my heart was in my throat when I saw the damage. With my 5 daughters its allot of fun just keeping my sanity.


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Mission 765 Mains, 4-762i's Surrounds, AR center PSC25, SVS PB13 Ultra & A/D/S MS3u sub
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Sanyo Z4 pj, Viewsonic N3235w 32" HDTV

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I have thought of using just a dab of silicone on the rubber inserts that hold them but that may make it to hard to get off in the future.


Thanks, my heart was in my throat when I saw the damage. With my 5 daughters its allot of fun just keeping my sanity.
I'd rather have hard to get off grills than deal with this problem again. Or even better if one of the little ones decides to poke a barbie or hair brush through the cone.


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Old 08-03-09, 01:44 PM   #13
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We had one member here that his 4 yer old daughter stuck a pen through the driver in more than one place


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Sanyo Z4 pj, Viewsonic N3235w 32" HDTV

Two Channel system:
Yamaha RXV995, Mission 764i's, Yamaha YST FSW100 sub
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I felt really bad for you as I read through the thread. But, I'm very glad to see there was a happy ending!


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Thanks, My fears mounted as I contaced Denon who was the Mission rep for Canada up untill about two years ago but they had no parts left and they gave me a Mission contact however they did not have any drivers left but they do still have the tweeters for my mission. I wonder If I should buy two just in case.


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Onkyo TXSR805, Samson Servo 4120 4 ch amp bridged @240wattsX2
Mission 765 Mains, 4-762i's Surrounds, AR center PSC25, SVS PB13 Ultra & A/D/S MS3u sub
2 Audio control C131 EQ's, Toshiba XA2, Samsung BDP1400, Pioneer LD
Sanyo Z4 pj, Viewsonic N3235w 32" HDTV

Two Channel system:
Yamaha RXV995, Mission 764i's, Yamaha YST FSW100 sub
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If you intend on keeping them it might be worth it. My daughter blew a tweeter in one of my Celestion Dittons that can't be replaced.


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This is an easy fix. All you need is a piece of masking tape, folded over. Place the masking tape on the dust cover, then pull it back in to shape. I first saw this on Axiom Audio's website, you can find the how to video buried somewhere in their tips and tricks section.


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This is an easy fix. All you need is a piece of masking tape, folded over. Place the masking tape on the dust cover, then pull it back in to shape. I first saw this on Axiom Audio's website, you can find the how to video buried somewhere in their tips and tricks section.
Tried 5 different kinds of tape however none of them would stick to the cap (even duct tape) as its made of some sort of rubber that seems to not stick to anything.


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Onkyo TXSR805, Samson Servo 4120 4 ch amp bridged @240wattsX2
Mission 765 Mains, 4-762i's Surrounds, AR center PSC25, SVS PB13 Ultra & A/D/S MS3u sub
2 Audio control C131 EQ's, Toshiba XA2, Samsung BDP1400, Pioneer LD
Sanyo Z4 pj, Viewsonic N3235w 32" HDTV

Two Channel system:
Yamaha RXV995, Mission 764i's, Yamaha YST FSW100 sub
Yamaha KX-393 Tape deck, CDC 805 CD changer, LG DV7832NXC DVD, Sony turntable PS-T20, Nintendo Wii
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Tried 5 different kinds of tape however none of them would stick to the cap (even duct tape) as its made of some sort of rubber that seems to not stick to anything.

I am assuming you have not tried gorilla tape which sticks to almost anything and is tough as nails. It's available from Lowes or home depot where I live. Anyways, it is possible for a professional to repair them. The Speaker Exchange in Tampa, Florida has an excellent reputation and many decades of being in business, they are a factory authorized repair center for many major brands and can probably fix yours too. (they do work for Disney, major broadcasters, performing arts halls, Universal Studios, Circuict City, etc)


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The vacuum is my friend even if it sucks did a nice job of pulling them out.


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Onkyo TXSR805, Samson Servo 4120 4 ch amp bridged @240wattsX2
Mission 765 Mains, 4-762i's Surrounds, AR center PSC25, SVS PB13 Ultra & A/D/S MS3u sub
2 Audio control C131 EQ's, Toshiba XA2, Samsung BDP1400, Pioneer LD
Sanyo Z4 pj, Viewsonic N3235w 32" HDTV

Two Channel system:
Yamaha RXV995, Mission 764i's, Yamaha YST FSW100 sub
Yamaha KX-393 Tape deck, CDC 805 CD changer, LG DV7832NXC DVD, Sony turntable PS-T20, Nintendo Wii
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Tony's speaker trauma reminds me of the time when a customer called me up at Tweeter and said he shot his speaker. He was cleaning his gun not realizing it was still loaded and ended up blowing a 2 inch hole in his Martin Logan ReQuest stat panel. I was glad no one was injured but it made for an interesting call to Gary Powers at ML. I joked that his next speakers need to use Kevlar drivers.


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I joked that his next speakers need to use Kevlar drivers.


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2 Audio control C131 EQ's, Toshiba XA2, Samsung BDP1400, Pioneer LD
Sanyo Z4 pj, Viewsonic N3235w 32" HDTV

Two Channel system:
Yamaha RXV995, Mission 764i's, Yamaha YST FSW100 sub
Yamaha KX-393 Tape deck, CDC 805 CD changer, LG DV7832NXC DVD, Sony turntable PS-T20, Nintendo Wii
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LOL I just saw the thread title and read it miles ahead betting it something to do with pushed in dust cups and I was spot on!

Okay you’ll first need a bog role and a lot of sucking on the speaker! Just don’t let the wife catch you doing it with the speaker otherwise she’ll get it in her head that your into speakers more.

Don’t use a vacuum cleaner unless you can control the level of sucking or have steady hand where you hold it at an angle and the sucking grabs onto the dust cap and snaps it back into shape and place.

I’d use Bog role it’s a lot safer!

LOL a pen! LOL I guess she didn’t like the music or you refused to play teletubbies DVD for her.

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LOL that would work but some toddlers today are becoming more advanced in speaker terrorism.

It’s like my cat and cats like children have this curiosity where they like to explore, prod things push them in to see if they can withstand the hush punishment of fingers or even claws take your pick?

My cat I don’t let it roam around the living room anymore because of cables and such and a simple shake of the (tape measure) the cat runs out of the room.



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Hmmm, Thats not a bad idea Bruce. My question is would that not effect the sound in some way particularly the tweeter?


Home theater:
Onkyo TXSR805, Samson Servo 4120 4 ch amp bridged @240wattsX2
Mission 765 Mains, 4-762i's Surrounds, AR center PSC25, SVS PB13 Ultra & A/D/S MS3u sub
2 Audio control C131 EQ's, Toshiba XA2, Samsung BDP1400, Pioneer LD
Sanyo Z4 pj, Viewsonic N3235w 32" HDTV

Two Channel system:
Yamaha RXV995, Mission 764i's, Yamaha YST FSW100 sub
Yamaha KX-393 Tape deck, CDC 805 CD changer, LG DV7832NXC DVD, Sony turntable PS-T20, Nintendo Wii
Sony KP-53HS30 HDTV, Motorola HD-PVR

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