question about setup

**Cheecho** · **04-13-07, 05:03 PM**

yah they were hooked up to the same reciever but im not so sure that those go for around 900 a pair cuz they were only 20 percent off

**Otto** · **04-13-07, 05:41 PM**

Yeah, 20% off would put the original price at about $500. Either way, I think they're good speakers, and if you like them, and there's nothing wrong with them (since they're demos), then I'd say that's not a bad price.

Depending on how you feel about wheeling-and-dealing (I'm not very good at it myself), you may want to ask for more of a discount. I would imagine that a clearance for a new line would already get you 20% off. The fact that they're demos on top of "last years model" might bring the price down more. Either way, the $399 price isn't bad...

If you like 'em, and you're happy with the amount of shopping you've done, then go for it. You might call them and find out the exact model and then google around for pricing. My guess is that $399 isn't a bad deal.

**Cheecho** · **04-13-07, 06:13 PM**

yah otto the only thing is im not sure on the exact model... and the thing is they are all 20% off and he said he would give me the two bookshelf 7"drive speakers for 399 which was 20% off the original price of 500.... the thing that gets me is that they should even discount it more since they were displays and were used...AND thanks a lot u been really helpfull im prolly going to purchase these with a center speaker for 575 total.... all i need now is a receiver

**Cheecho** · **04-13-07, 07:33 PM**

o and btw the model for the speakers are Paradigm Monitor 3 v2

**jackfish** · **04-13-07, 08:04 PM**

Cheecho, have you even listened to the Infinity Primus speakers? I think you should give them a chance. If you are looking for value, they are the real deal.

$399 for a pair of Paradigm Monitor 3 v2s is no deal. You can get them new for that or less at several places.

**Otto** · **04-13-07, 08:44 PM**

Yeah, knowing that it's the Monitor 3 v2, $400 isn't really a good deal at all. $300 would be a better deal... I think you have the Studio 20 v4 in the picture, but that's no problem.

You might want to continue shopping. I had to give up after a while, too, but it's fun during the process. I haven't heard anything bad about the Infinity that jackfish recommended. At $160/pr, I'm tempted to buy them just to see how they sound! I think the 6.5" two-way would be comparable to the speakers you've been looking at. That would be the P162, although I see on the Infinity site that they also a list a "Primus 160" with the exact same specs...

Current recommendation: keep shopping.

What other shops are in El Paso?

**Cheecho** · **04-13-07, 10:06 PM**

none at all i think i might have to drive to las cruses in order to check out some other speakers..... and i havnt heard those infinity primus yet but havnt bumped into them yet either.... ill let you guys know how it goes when i head over to las cruses tomorrow

.... again really apreaciate the help cuz i was def thinking about picking up those paradigims because to me they sounded better then the B&W 600 series :-[

**Cheecho** · **04-14-07, 08:19 PM**

oooo i picked up some speakers today at las cruses i fell in love with some paridigms and for the price i thought it was a must buy

**jackfish** · **04-14-07, 10:15 PM**

What are you going to drive them with? Amp/receiver? Transport/source?

**Cheecho** · **04-14-07, 10:40 PM**

right now they are just sitting here in my room

.... i think im going to buy a receiver the only thing is i dunno what one to get and stuff thats why im going to wait and see whats out there you know.... what do u recommend i use to drive the speakers with????

**Otto** · **04-15-07, 07:45 AM**

Cool, Cheecho! I lived in Las Cruces many years ago. I don't remember any audio shops there back then...

So what'd you get?

**jackfish** · **04-15-07, 11:37 AM**

Well you started this thread suggesting you were looking at a 5.1 system. The Pioneer Elite VSX-81TXV for around $650 has been getting some good buzz. The Pioneer Elite series of receivers are Pioneer's top of the line, full featured receivers. The VSX-81TXV should have enough power to drive those Paradigms. Which model Paradigms are they? That would help in detemining a suitable subwoofer for you.

Other receivers to consider:
Denon AVR-2807 $850
Sony STR-DG1000 $700
Marantz SR5001 $600
Yamaha HTR6090BL $650

For a DVD player that will also play CDs, SACDs and DVD-As you can't go wrong with the Oppo DV-981HD for $230.

**Cheecho** · **04-15-07, 09:46 PM**

i got some of the focus model i know their old... i was comparing em to the monitor 3's and the 650$ studio speakers and the only difference i heard in them was bass... so im hoping i can get that from my sub.... o and i got them for 160

**jackfish** · **04-15-07, 10:14 PM**

Now if you could just find the Paradigm CC 170 center, ADP 170 dipole surrounds and PDR 12 subwoofer you would have a highly praised speaker system.

**Otto** · **04-16-07, 07:39 AM**

Yeah, what jackfish said. A little patience and you should be able to find those matching speakers. Nice price on the speakers; your budget can certainly take you further now!

As for receivers, there's been a bunch thrown through this thread, so just look back a bit. I think supervsl set me straight on the crossover points allowed in the Yamaha, but I still don't like the fact that they apply a singly crossover point for all speakers, even if their higher end receivers allow you to select it. That's just lame.

But check out the others. I'm sure any of them would work nicely for you.

**jackfish** · **04-16-07, 11:53 AM**

Paradigm ADP 170s in ebay.
Paradigm PDR 12 on ebay.
A Paradigm CC170 just sold for $140 on AudiogoN.

**Cheecho** · **04-16-07, 04:02 PM**

you think i will be able to trust ebay and audiogon??? and how much should i expect to pay for these matching speakers???

**Cheecho** · **04-16-07, 04:07 PM**

hey guys i found the center speaker at soundquest for 175 new.... and the rears he said he has the 190's for 350 a pair :O

**jackfish** · **04-16-07, 05:18 PM**

I would do a little more research on dipoles to make sure for your situation another pair of Focus or Mini-Monitors might not work as well for surrounds. I have purchased many items off of ebay and a couple off AudiogoN. The trick is to ask as many questions as possible. If you already know you want the product then it is just a matter of them representing the item truthfully. Also check seller feedback. If they don't represent the item truthfully you have recourse, like cancelling your payment.

**Otto** · **04-16-07, 05:35 PM**

That's correct about eBay and AudiogoN. I always use PayPal with an account connected to a real credit card rather than a debit card. I've never had any trouble, the items have always been good, etc.

**Cheecho** · **04-16-07, 07:54 PM**

yah just a little worried about getting damaged speakers n stuff.... o and do you guys think 175 for that center speaker is good the Paradigm CC170

**jackfish** · **04-16-07, 08:16 PM**

Why not? You are half way there. Now for those surrounds and the subwoofer.

**Otto** · **04-16-07, 08:56 PM**

Quote:

Cheecho wrote:

yah just a little worried about getting damaged speakers n stuff.... o and do you guys think 175 for that center speaker is good the Paradigm CC170

Be sure to get insurance on the shipping. I've had a variety of things broken courtesy of UPS. I avoid them when possible. The sender must also pack properly. If the packing is poor, UPS and any other shipper may have a cause to NOT pay for damage.

**Cheecho** · **04-16-07, 09:19 PM**

ahhh thanks otto.... that clears up things cuz i think i need to get the surrounds from audiogon ..... and i wish i was half way there im still missing the most important thing the reciever imma go look at some at circuit city on friday they had some denon models....

**Otto** · **04-16-07, 09:49 PM**

Excellent!

Here are some links to receivers on AudiogoN:

I've heard good things about the Panasonic XR55:
http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls....cvr&1180978717

Here's something. Not sure how people feel about Integra (Onkyo, right?):
http://www.http://cls.audiogon.com/c...1180719046.com

A Pioneer Elite VSX-29Tx:
http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls....cvr&1180246605

I think you would be fine with 5.1 for the time being. Many of us have "only" 5.1. I think those receivers are all pretty good, and they are at good prices. Any of those (and various others just like them) would give you exactly what you need for as long as you need.

I, personally, don't have any trouble buying stuff from AudiogoN, and I feel better there than at eBay (I'm sure there are scammers and losers at AudiogoN as well, but I just feel like people there care about their stuff more than the average guy on eBay). I have purchased center and main speakers there as well as a 5-channel amp. No problems. There's plenty of opportunity to talk back and forth with the seller. I have also talked with them on the phone prior to buying. Ultimately, it's up to you if you feel comfortable buying used over the web, but I've had success with it.

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