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Review: Klipsch Cornwall III vs. Cornwall I

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Old 06-19-06, 09:48 PM   #1 (Link)
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Review: Klipsch Cornwall III vs. Cornwall I


We did not have a lot of time to compare the speakers. They were set up side-by-side at the Klipsch factory in Hope, Arkansas. Swapped back and forth between them. The Cornwall I vocals seemed a little 'tinny' and not as clear as the III's. Bass on the III was a little stronger.

The CW I had good caps in the crossover, the Klipsch engineers had run a bunch of tests on it, and concluded the crossover was working correctly.

The CW III is on the left, CW I on the right. The woofer on the III is higher than the I. This is to smooth out the bass response.

Notice the III is taller than the I. No sonic advantage...small stand makes it easier to use the vacuum cleaner.

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Downstairs: oiled Oak Klipschorns, LaScala (rears), oiled Walnut Heresy II (center), oiled Bubinga Heresy I (rears), SVS PB12-Plus/2 piano black, Outlaw 990, McIntosh MA6100, (2) MC250, MC2100, Oppo DV-981HD, Toshiba HD-A2, Cambridge Audio Azur 640C, Belkin Pure AV PF60, Behringer DSP1124P

Upstairs: McIntosh C2200, MC275 MKIV, oiled Walnut Cornwall I, Denon DVD-2200, Technics SL-1200 M3D, Audio Technica AT150MLX, Richard Gray Power Company 400 Pro

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Re: Review: Klipsch Cornwall III vs. Cornwall I


The attached image is a SPL vs Freq. graph of the Cornwall I in Klipsch's anechoic chamber. The purple and red lines are essentially the same line. I believe we tried a new inductor. It did not make a significant difference. The thing to note is the drop off at 400-600 Hz. The green line is swapping the polarity for the squawker (I think). All it did was move the drop to 700-900 Hz.

The drop off is due to resonances set up in the box. Later Cornwall I's used a B-2 crossover that helped some with the dip at 400-600 HZ. Klipsch fixed this on the CW III by raising the woofer (see the above picture).

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Re: Review: Klipsch Cornwall III vs. Cornwall I


This photo is from the Klipsch forum. Trey Cannon from Klipsch is working on the speaker. The owner, Seadog standing by in the anechoic chamber.

What other company would do that for their customers?

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Upstairs: McIntosh C2200, MC275 MKIV, oiled Walnut Cornwall I, Denon DVD-2200, Technics SL-1200 M3D, Audio Technica AT150MLX, Richard Gray Power Company 400 Pro

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Re: Review: Klipsch Cornwall III vs. Cornwall I


Liked the Cornwall I's so much I bought 1984 oiled walnut pair. Were 6/10 now 8/10 after light sanding and 5 coats of Tung Oil.

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Re: Review: Klipsch Cornwall III vs. Cornwall I


Very interesting... first time I've seen a test (anechoic I assume) room like the one above.


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Re: Review: Klipsch Cornwall III vs. Cornwall I


its a pitty we dont realy see klipsch here in the uk, i guess the only thing similar to those would be tannoys, at many times the price i bet as well.

now if only i could emigrate to the us

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Who's the goof that trusted a Klipsch nut like rcarlton in the building. I mean sheesh I am suprised he didn't run out with pair on his shoulders..

Just messing with yeah dood..I like theri newer THX Ultra 2 series alot. My dad had a pair of old Magnavox speakers (circa 1973-74) The he finally had to let go of when we started on the HT. Those were some great speakers. Horn loaded tweeter and 15in woofers. I remeber the first time I listend to Deep Purple's smoke on the water from LP on them. Really set me on home audio.

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Re: Review: Klipsch Cornwall III vs. Cornwall I


Here are some more pictures of the chamber. The revolving door. The entrance to the chamber.

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Re: Review: Klipsch Cornwall III vs. Cornwall I


Jubilee...the last speaker PWK helped create.

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Closeup of the tiles.

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The anechoic chamber.

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Who's the goof that trusted a Klipsch nut like rcarlton in the building. I mean sheesh I am suprised he didn't run out with pair on his shoulders..

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I didn't run out with any speakers. Another couple did...Cornwall III's as a door prize:raped: !

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Re: Review: Klipsch Cornwall III vs. Cornwall I


Go to this site CWIII to see step-by-step how Klipsch makes the Cornwall III's.


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Re: Review: Klipsch Cornwall III vs. Cornwall I


After living with the Cornwall's for a month, used only for two channel through a vintage McIntosh MAC-1700. All I can say is Wow!!!:holycow: Not as big a sound as K-horns, perhaps a more intimate sound. Terrific separation of instruments, nice wide sound stage. Accurate reproduction of the music. Non-fatiguing. Works well with Jazz. Rock doesn't sound too bad either. Haven't played much Classic or Blues yet. No Hip Hop, Rap, at all (no plans to either).


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Downstairs: oiled Oak Klipschorns, LaScala (rears), oiled Walnut Heresy II (center), oiled Bubinga Heresy I (rears), SVS PB12-Plus/2 piano black, Outlaw 990, McIntosh MA6100, (2) MC250, MC2100, Oppo DV-981HD, Toshiba HD-A2, Cambridge Audio Azur 640C, Belkin Pure AV PF60, Behringer DSP1124P

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Say Ron...

That pic of the Jubilee in the chamber sure looks familar!!



(and yes, I just now found this site)



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Just trying to drum up interest and at the same time enter a contest held here earlier for some SVS speakers.


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Upstairs: McIntosh C2200, MC275 MKIV, oiled Walnut Cornwall I, Denon DVD-2200, Technics SL-1200 M3D, Audio Technica AT150MLX, Richard Gray Power Company 400 Pro

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This photo is from the Klipsch forum. Trey Cannon from Klipsch is working on the speaker. The owner, Seadog standing by in the anechoic chamber.

What other company would do that for their customers?
....and here are those Cornwalls back at home handling front R and L duty in my all Klipsch Heritage HT.

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