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post #41 of 48 Old 03-09-16, 05:02 PM
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Im not convinced that the calibration file is right. There simply is no physical way those readings are right.

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Im not convinced that the calibration file is right. There simply is no physical way those readings are right.
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Hi supplied graph, different levels were used

Each sub level was set in the 30s out of 100.

Try this again
I think this graph is upside down or just plain incorrect as home subs just do not approach that level of low frequencies. Nope not possible imo.

I must say that I have a REL and it is brilliant for music as it blends in seamlessly with the mains, like the sub was never there. It will hit just about any note in the music scale but does loose a bit as the music goes below 25hz. Like many others here, I have played with many subs and the only other sub to do this same level of integration was a small Velodyne. Now having said that, one must realize that this is my equipment in my room and is not to be considered law. The REL is built to the 9's and reeks of build quality.
For movies, the REL does fall short of rattling the rafters but it does a good job in its designed parameters. As such, this would be recommended for music lovers primarily.

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post #44 of 48 Old 03-10-16, 01:28 PM
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The multiple calibration files (for multiple mics) were done at different times by Cross Spectrum.

Results the same with these multiple mics and soundcards.

The frequency response has improved (not extension wise, still 9hz) by shifting the speakers.

Comment was made RELs sometime "grip" the room and results like this can happen with careful calibration.

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If the OP is still in the market I second, or is it fifth the nod to the Rythmik. You won't be disappointed going this route.

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Re: Sub for music

I was just wondering what the OP ended up getting (or not), altho I did enjoy the side conversation. The Rels may actually, with right room for cabin gain and maybe some extraneous noise (HVAC, nearby road or industry or?) hit 80dB at 9Hz, not that you'd likely know it without a measurement mic. Would like to see more measurements (assuming they're setup well), particularly of the room on its own for a starting point as well as what happens when you turn the levels up from there at 9Hz.
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post #47 of 48 Old 03-28-16, 03:12 PM
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All this dismay about dual sealed subs hitting 80 dB at 9 Hz is just plain silly. Has no one here ever heard of room gain? 80 dB is extremely low output when one considers there might be 15 dB+ of room gain by that point. Any sealed sub with a shallow roll off is going to be capable of doing that in a smaller sized room...its really no big deal. Also, 80 dB at 9 Hz is completely meaningless. You aren't going to hear or feel it at all. This was a very low level sweep, I'm sure the REL's will hit their limits down their at a fairly low level. I think the REL's, setup properly, probably do sound good on music. But I also agree that they are geared towards audiophiles and are extremely overpriced for the performance. I think any of the I.D. $500-$1k sealed subs would likely match or exceed them in all performance metrics. Nothing magical about a sealed sub...put a decent driver in the correct size, decently built box, match it with the correct amp, maybe toss in a bit of eq and some limiting protection. Now, getting lots of clean output from a small package is where things get costly. Course, a nice looking sub can be important as well, but honestly none of this, other than attempting to get lots of output out of a tiny box, is very costly.
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I am using two SVS SB2000's with good results in my room.
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