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I might be inclined to sell the KK and look to address the space with dual ported subs. That's a big space that's perfect for a port design. This is going to sound like a sales pitch, but both SVS and PSA sell dual options that would price in the $2,000-$3,000 range. Secondarily, HSU would get you there for slightly less.

Let's say you were able to sell your KK for 50% of its MSRP (here on HTS or through a site like Audiogon), you'd have $1500 in your pocket, which would go a long way toward implementing a dual subs. Honestly, I'm not sure how much of a difference in fidelity you'd notice. The sealed KK might give a little more of a controlled response for critical stereo listening...but I don't think you'll hear much of a detail loss when watching movies. In fact, I think your overall experience will radically improve.
Hsu suggested the vtf3 mk4 or the 15H mk2 to go along with the KK but I'm not sure about that. Getting different subs to match can be a headache.
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When you run REW measurements from your MLP... where is the null?

The benefit of two, would not only be more headroom, but you can take measurements and strategically place sub number two in a place that smooths out the response.
I'm not sure how to look for null. I just placed the sub were I got the flat response and placed it.
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Re: SVS Unleashes Black Friday Madness with an SB12-NSD Subwoofer Blowout

It would be a dip in your frequency response...that would tell you what the null is (if you have one) in your seating position. I'm wondering because the mid-bass range is probably the one that is going to give you that slam factor. Just curious to know if your seating position is in a null in that range.

I think trying to match different sub models will be a wild goose chase...I'd stick with one, buy a second matching one, or sell the one you have and buy duals of another model. Then use REW to integrate them (using the ear test too, of course ).

Decisions, decisions....

There is another option... bass shakers mounted under your couch! ;-) I love mine, can't imagine not having them.
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It would be a dip in your frequency response...that would tell you what the null is (if you have one) in your seating position. I'm wondering because the mid-bass range is probably the one that is going to give you that slam factor. Just curious to know if your seating position is in a null in that range.

I think trying to match different sub models will be a wild goose chase...I'd stick with one, buy a second matching one, or sell the one you have and buy duals of another model. Then use REW to integrate them (using the ear test too, of course ).

Decisions, decisions....

There is another option... bass shakers mounted under your couch! ;-) I love mine, can't imagine not having them.
Todd here is an older graph of the sub only and if I remember correctly it is front middle wall placement.
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/attach...p;d=1438823401
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You have some dips at 45 and 55, but nothing terribly offensive...looks good overall. With more powerful duals, you'd get deeper extension, for sure, and more even response over a wider area...
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You have some dips at 45 and 55, but nothing terribly offensive...looks good overall. With more powerful duals, you'd get deeper extension, for sure, and more even response over a wider area...
Thank you Todd. Yes another sub it is at some point. Hopefully someone will sell a used Kreisel 12012
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What a great deal, I would love to get my hands on a pair of those subs.

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Well I found an SB13 Ultra in mint condition with the piano finish and still has a 2 years left on the warranty. It is selling for $950. Is this a good buy? I would jump on it right away but my issue would be will it integrate well with my Kreisel 12012?
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Re: SVS Unleashes Black Friday Madness with an SB12-NSD Subwoofer Blowout

I know this is the SVS thread but since I posted earlier" SVS/KK I just wanted to mention I settled for a second KK sub. Should receive it this week.

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