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post #21 of 77 Old 03-27-14, 12:20 PM
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When testing isn't being done and new room correction software isn't run, I feel like I'm being cheated out of my time as many of these so called reviews are nothing more than a mime of specifications.

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It is very difficult to compare how the currently available room correction products perform from most equipment reviews. Some authors don't evaluate the systems at all and others provide only a cursory comment. The comprehensive evaluations provided by David Rich's in his treatise on Anthem Room Correction (ARC) and Piero Gabucci on the Dirac system at Secrets of Home Theater and Hifi and your own writings regarding the various Audyssey, Trinnov and miniDSP variants in Stereophile are immensely important to audio enthusiasts seeking better sound. A similar technical evaluation of the Cirrus room correction solution, including evaluation of both the "automatic" and "manual" modes as applicable, would be of great benefit given the expanding number of lower- and some not-so-low priced preamplifier processors and receivers incorporating the technology.
Out of curiosity, where do you guys generally turn for A/V gear reviews? A specific site? (I see secrets of home theater and hifi and stereophile mentioned) Google? Other?

Could you expand on "technical evaluation?" What specifically would you like to see the reviewer discuss when it comes to room correction? How it works, how to set it up, what each function does, before/after comparisons? Are you more interested in measurement data or subjective discussion? Are you looking for a definitive "[room correction program 'x'] is better than [room correction 'y']" type of conclusion?

We hope to bring you lots more AV receiver reviews here at HTS this year and value the feedback provided by our members. After all, the reviews are for you!
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Re: Onkyo Announces Two New AVRs (TX-NR535 and TX-NR636), Featuring Proprietary Room Correction Software and HDMI 2.0

I read various online and print magazines. Some Stereophile and The Absolute Sound, but more Sound and Vision. Also I follow Secrets and Home Theater Review. I also follow HTS and AVSForum (though AVSForum doesn't really do many "professional" reviews). There are others I read when looking for a specific product and they have reviewed it, but that's mostly it.

I hope you guys can get an Anthem MRX receiver in to test the ARC room correction system. I'd be interested in how it compares to MultEQ XT32 and some form of Dirac (the new Emotiva pre-pro if it ever shows up perhaps). Objective measurement is interesting, but I'm more interested in subjective impressions and it would be cool to have an example of each of the three room correction schemes compared in the same room with the same gear at the same time (both back-to-back and living with each for a handful of days).
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Thanks for the feedback Bryan. I agree, a three-way (or more) comparison in the same room could be very informative. Maybe we can make that happen here in 2014.
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Re: Onkyo Announces Two New AVRs (TX-NR535 and TX-NR636), Featuring Proprietary Room Correction Software and HDMI 2.0

I usually turn to The HTS first for reviews then Secrets and Sound and Vision.
I agree that a 3 way comparison would be a great test.

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Out of curiosity, where do you guys generally turn for A/V gear reviews? A specific site? (I see secrets of home theater and hifi and stereophile mentioned) Google? Other?

Could you expand on "technical evaluation?" What specifically would you like to see the reviewer discuss when it comes to room correction? How it works, how to set it up, what each function does, before/after comparisons? Are you more interested in measurement data or subjective discussion? Are you looking for a definitive "[room correction program 'x'] is better than [room correction 'y']" type of conclusion?

We hope to bring you lots more AV receiver reviews here at HTS this year and value the feedback provided by our members. After all, the reviews are for you!
As to room correction software, I'd simply like to see opinions after the software installed in an AVR is run with some sort of comparative to a standard when measured with a program such as REW. Having the ability to dial in a pair of subwoofers would be something I would consider important.

As to where do I turn for reviews, besides here as the review on the AVR4520CI by Sonnie was instrumental in my purchase of the Denon AVR4520CI, because of bench tests, I like the reviews that I read on Sound and Vision. They haven't done a review on the 4520CI yet.

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Thanks for your comments as well BeeMan. Glad to hear at least one HTS review has served you well! I agree that the bench tests are a nice supplement to a subjective review.
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Re: Onkyo Announces Two New AVRs (TX-NR535 and TX-NR636), Featuring Proprietary Room Correction Software and HDMI 2.0

Hey, I've been wondering how the Focus and Silverscreen all turned out for you. Sounds like well.

Now we're really getting off topic . . .
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