Slaughter House Cinemas (Project Thread)

[salvasol]

carls64 wrote:

Ready for this, fell out of a golf cart doing 25 mph, landed right shoulder first on the ground.

Were you racing in the golf course???

I landed on my left ... I was 15yrs old and just started playing semi-professional, the other guy tripped me when I was turning and preparing to run (he was a veteran)

[Sonnie]

I must say Carl... you did a very nice job on the theater.

[carls64]

Thanks Sonnie!

It was the best job I could do with the money I had and the time I had to do it ;-)

[carls64]

AH I can almost taste my eD A2-300's now

10/13/2008 In Final Assembly

Now I just need to decide if I want to purchase some front mains LCR for about $590 more I can get their A6-6T6 Towers and a A6-6T6 MTM Center channel speaker

[carls64]

Oh boy I pulled the trigger on a complete 5.0 set of speakers, from eD they will be here Friday so this weekend I will have to start all over again calibrating my system ;-)

[carls64]

My two A2-300 are sitting in my garage waiting for me to get home, lets see 12:17 I have 5 more house before I get home

My A3-5TC, A6-6T6-MTM, and A6-6T6-Towers should be here Friday! Nice to live only 2 days from eD

[salvasol]

carls64 wrote:

Nice to live only 2 days from eD

... and is nice to have money too

Congratulations

[carls64]

Well it is loaned money, but I suppose money nevertheless

They are here, here are the pictures!

I was also notified that my Full range eD speaker arrived, so I hope to get those in and hooked up tonight!

[carls64]

The new eD Full Range 5.0 system in in, had a friend help me get them down there and set up. I briefly calibrated the LCR set along with the subs, and I have to say I can't believe what I was missing in regard to the fidelity. I watched a couple Demo DVD I have been collecting and I could not believe my ears! The dynamic range of sound I have now is simply superb! It was like going from internal speakers on your TV to a live performance. Now I need to do some calibration with REW and the BFD and see where I am at.

Here are the un-boxing photos and setup. eD does a great job of packaging their speakers, although all the boxes and the speakers say "Made in the Philippians" ;-) The workmanship of the speakers is great!

I have to figure out how to mount the rear/side speakers as they are MUCH bigger than the Polk's that I have up there now, and I doubt that the plastic mounts will hold them at over 7 lbs each ;-)

Not sure what happend to the pictures but the are out of order they are last is first and first is last order ;-)

http://www.itsallbutstraw.com/galler...g2_itemId=8376

[salvasol]

carls64 wrote:

The new eD Full Range 5.0 system in in,...

Congratulations ... they look nice

To place the surrounds maybe you can use just screws and plastic anchors (my JBL weights 11lbs, and that's what I'm using); or you can use a small shelf too

EDIT: I forgot ... Why did you place the sub with port facing to the room??? ... Try it facing to the walls and see how they sound...

[carls64]

salvasol wrote:

EDIT: I forgot ... Why did you place the sub with port facing to the room??? ... Try it facing to the walls and see how they sound...

Thanks!

Well that is just the way they seemed to look best ;-) plus they are a pin in the to move with spikes and the little wound spike pads LOL I will maybe try turning them to point to the walls, but I don't want to
turn them completely around because the other side of the port is the amp and connections :-)

Also can you show me how you mounted your surrounds?

[salvasol]

carls64 wrote:

Well that is just the way they seemed to look best .... I don't want to turn them completely around because the other side of the port is the amp and connections :-)

I completely forgot about that small detail .. ... maybe this subs are meant to be used the way you have them (mine have the port in the same side as the amp and connections )

Leave it the way you have them now ... please ignore my suggestion

Also can you show me how you mounted your surrounds?

I will take some pictures ... this are the speakers I'm using (Dimensions (H x W x D) 10-1/4" x 14-5/8" x 5" Weight 11 lb (5kg))





they have the mounting holes in the back ... so I just used plastic anchors like this drywall anchors or plastic anchor to hang them on the wall (for drywall ... the first one is better)

[carls64]

These are considered bookshelf speakers so they have no mounting hols on the back :-(

[salvasol]

carls64 wrote:

These are considered bookshelf speakers so they have no mounting hols on the back :-(

I just saw the picture on their website (even if they're bookshelf some have holes or includes brackets)...they say that if you want to mount it on a wall use a bracket (similar to what you have, if they can't hold 10lbs look for something bigger) ... or if you don't want to make any holes for the screws (I'm sure you don't ) just get a pair of small shelf at Lowes or Home Depot (like this so they don't show the brackets)

Also, What receiver are you using??? ...I just noticed that the speakers are rated 6 ohms, I'm sure you'll be okay but take a look at the manual to see if there's any caution note when using speakers rated below 8 ohms ... better safe than sorry

[carls64]

It's a Yamaha RX-V663 Good thing you said that as it needed to be changed over to 6 ohm Min! Hope the I didn't hurt anything we watched a 2 hr movie like that

I switched it now to 6 ohm so we shall see, the unit did not seem to be hot or anything so we shall see.

[salvasol]

carls64 wrote:

I switched it now to 6 ohm so we shall see, the unit did not seem to be hot or anything so we shall see.

Was there any change in the sound when AVR was in 8 ohms vs 6 ohms???

I have the RXV 2700, and in a review I found online they suggested to keep the AVR at 8 ohms even if the speakers used were 4-6 ohms (specifically 4 ohms) ... the wattage the AVR outputs was higher (4 ohms speakers; AVR set at 4/6 ohms wattage was 144WPC but when they used the same speakers and set the AVR to 8 ohms the wattage was 272WPC )

Try it and see if there's any difference ... just be sure the AVR is not overheating

[carls64]

salvasol wrote:

Was there any change in the sound when AVR was in 8 ohms vs 6 ohms???

I have the RXV 2700, and in a review I found online they suggested to keep the AVR at 8 ohms even if the speakers used were 4-6 ohms (specifically 4 ohms) ... the wattage the AVR outputs was higher (4 ohms speakers; AVR set at 4/6 ohms wattage was 144WPC but when they used the same speakers and set the AVR to 8 ohms the wattage was 272WPC )

Try it and see if there's any difference ... just be sure the AVR is not overheating

Here is what my manual says:

If you use one set (A or B),
the impedance of each
speaker must be 8Ω or
higher.
If you use two sets (A and
B), the impedance of each
speaker must be 16Ω or
higher.*
Center
The impedance of each
speaker must be 8Ω or
higher.
Surround
Surround back
6ΩMIN
Front
If you use one set (A or B),
the impedance of each
speaker must be 4Ω or
higher.
If you use two sets (A and
B), the impedance of each
speaker must be 8Ω or
higher.
Center
The impedance of each
speaker must be 6Ω or
higher.
Surround
Surround back

[carls64]

I found this HERE

almost all mid range AVR's from the main manufacturers such as Onkyo, Denon, HK, Pioneer, Sony, Yamaha etc have no problems pushing 6ohm speakers even when the AVR is set to for 8ohms. As john was saying you would have to run a receiver real high for extended periodds to experience problems.

I've learned that in some AVR's, especially Yamaha, that when you set the impedance on it to 6 ohms it will actually lessen the amount of watts output per channel. This is caused by special protection circuits being turned on when the AVR is set to 6ohms.

Therefore, if you got a good AVR with a good power supply I just say set the AVR to 8ohms and have fun!

[salvasol]

carls64 wrote:

I found this HERE

That's what I said .... (remember the 144WPC vs 272WPC)

Did you changed back to 8 ohms???? ....... your next addition has to be an external amp to power the fronts

[carls64]

salvasol wrote:

Did you changed back to 8 ohms????

Why yes, yes I did

salvasol wrote:

your next addition has to be an external amp to power the fronts

Ok so how much is that going to cost me

[carls64]

salvasol wrote:

I just saw the picture on their website (even if they're bookshelf some have holes or includes brackets)...they say that if you want to mount it on a wall use a bracket (similar to what you have, if they can't hold 10lbs look for something bigger) ... or if you don't want to make any holes for the screws (I'm sure you don't ) just get a pair of small shelf at Lowes or Home Depot (like this so they don't show the brackets)

Yup! That is what I ended up doing and they worked perfectly! They say they only are good for 6lbs but I used some better anchors and screws and I am sure they are not going to fall off, but they seem to work great. I also laid the speakers on their side and they pit perfect on the shelf, will probably get another set for the rear surrounds and get them off the ceiling. I will post some pics soon.

[salvasol]

carls64 wrote:

Why yes, yes I did Ok so how much is that going to cost me

I like this two Samson Servo Series and Behringer A500 .... they blend with the rest of the equipment and have RCA connectors; so you just need a cable from AVR preouts to amp and is ready to power your front speakers ... (BTW, I got the Servo 600 refurbished ... so I paid less than what they show on the link)

[carls64]

salvasol wrote:

I like this two Samson Servo Series and Behringer A500 .... they blend with the rest of the equipment and have RCA connectors; so you just need a cable from AVR preouts to amp and is ready to power your front speakers ... (BTW, I got the Servo 600 refurbished ... so I paid less than what they show on the link)

So how much did you pay, and how many of them do you have, are you powering just the l/R front? I think I can bridge the Yamaha I suppose and use it to power the center I guess.

[salvasol]

carls64 wrote:

So how much did you pay, and how many of them do you have, are you powering just the l/R front? I think I can bridge the Yamaha I suppose and use it to power the center I guess.

I paid $249 ...I got just one to power L+R, but I'm using two pair of speakers for the front (wired in parallel) so the amp will see a 4 ohm load and produces 300WPC ... so in reality I'm feeding 150 watts to each speaker when amp outputs full power

The sound changed a lot, and got some load out of the Yamaha (just removing the fronts) ... as far as bridging the amp to power the center I can't tell you ... I remember reading that you can assign the internal amps to bi-amp speakers but I'm not sure about bridging

[carls64]

Ok have some pictures of the surrounds shelves, thanks salvasol!