RaZorTT's Theatre Build

**bpape** · **07-30-09, 12:46 AM**

I have FSK sold by the foot for $1 per foot x 42" wide. It ABSOLUTELY is different bonding to the absorbtion. Don't let the cloth touch

Bryan

**Prof.** · **07-30-09, 07:46 PM**

Thanks Bryan..

I didn't realise it was so important not to have the facing touching the cloth!
I think I'll just spray the Mylar with some glue and lightly bond it to the fibreglass..just to test..If it's successful I can permanently bond it later..

**bpape** · **07-30-09, 09:49 PM**

It's not touching the cloth - it's bonded to the absorbtive core material.

Bryan

**raZorTT** · **07-31-09, 09:20 AM**

Well my dad ordered ordered some materials today.

He ordered around 70 lineal metres of framing which we will rip in half to frame up the soffits, screen wall and columns. We are also grabbing a few sheets of MDF, for the sides of the soffits and also to make up a few star ceiling panels.

Probably more importantly though, we ordered 12 sheets of unfaced Ultratel, and 3 sheets with the acoustituff.

Fingers crossed it will arrive mid next week, so we will be able to start framing the soffit next weekend!

Looking forward to finally starting the real work

Cheers,
Simon

**Prof.** · **07-31-09, 07:48 PM**

Simon,

Did the Acoustituff sheets work out to be much more expensive than the plain Ultratel?

**raZorTT** · **07-31-09, 07:58 PM**

Hey Prof,

I'll let you know on Monday. The guy didn't have an acoustituff price on hand so will get back to us first thing.

I'm hoping it will be like what you were quoted for the BMF and be $20-30 extra per sheet. Fingers crossed

Cheers,
Simon

**raZorTT** · **08-02-09, 07:26 AM**

In preparation of framing the soffit and screen wall over the next two weeks I thought it might be worth working out the screen size I want.

Below in an outline of a 135" scope screen.
Screen Outline

I hooked up my panasonic projector and zoomed the image to fill the 2.37 outline.

Quantum of Solice

WOW! I don't think I could go back to 16:9, even after 5mins.

My only worry is that my front row is going to be from 3.0m to 3.3m from the screen and i'm wondering if 135" might be a bit too big. I think i'll have to watch something for more than 5 mins to get a better idea.

What are other peoples screen size/seating distance?

Cheers,
Simon

**Prof.** · **08-02-09, 07:26 PM**

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raZorTT wrote:

My only worry is that my front row is going to be from 3.0m to 3.3m from the screen and i'm wondering if 135" might be a bit too big. I think i'll have to watch something for more than 5 mins to get a better idea.

What are other peoples screen size/seating distance?

Cheers,
Simon

That's very close for that size screen..

I sit at 2.9M. with a 106" CIH screen..and that gives me a very enveloping image..I certainly wouldn't want to sit any closer..but some people do..
Generally speaking, the ideal seating position for a scope screen is approx. 2.5 - 3 times the height..
I sit at 2.85 times the height..

If you can't get any further back with your front row, then I would suggest reducing the screen size a little..

**raZorTT** · **08-02-09, 09:08 PM**

Thanks Prof,

I think I might have to drop it down to a 130" screen. With a seating distance of 3.3m a 135" would be about 2.47 times the height.

I guess I could make my "box" seat in the second row if I wanted to keep the screen size.

Definitely will require some further investigation.

Cheers,
Simon

**Prof.** · **08-02-09, 09:16 PM**

Quote:

raZorTT wrote:

I guess I could make my "box" seat in the second row if I wanted to keep the screen size.

Definitely will require some further investigation.

Cheers,
Simon

Well yes..If you plan to sit in the rear row, then you could go even bigger and blow your front seat viewers away..

**cinema mad** · **08-02-09, 10:32 PM**

Nothing wrong with having you main seat/sweet spot in the middel of the second row, lots of people do it like that inc me...

And at least by keep your screen large you get that full Immersion / wow factor....

Cheers....

**Jason IB** · **08-14-09, 12:46 AM**

Hi Simon,

Fancy meeting you here :P Great thread on this forum too! Being that our rooms are at similar stages this thread has helped me out heaps. I gotta thanks "Prof" also for his input...BIG help.

**raZorTT** · **08-14-09, 12:53 AM**

Absolutely, Big thanks have to go out to Prof, cinema mad and bpape! They are all very knowledgeable guys and are always willing to share it! This "hobby" wouldn't be possible otherwise

Cheers,
Simon

**raZorTT** · **08-14-09, 01:04 AM**

Quote:

raZorTT wrote:

I'm hoping it will be like what you were quoted for the BMF and be $20-30 extra per sheet. Fingers crossed

FYI, looks like the accoustituff is about an extra $50-60 per sheet. A pack of 3 sheets is about $350. A smidge more than i'd hoped, but i'll wear the cost so I don't have to worry about putting the kraft paper on myself

. Not that stapling paper to a few frames would have been hard, but it helps me to justify it

I'll confirm the exact cost once I get the invoice on delivery, which hopefully will be in another week or so.

Cheers,
Simon

**cinema mad** · **08-14-09, 12:42 PM**

Sounds good Simon, Hopefully you will get it in A week so you can start installing it mate

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Cheers...

**Prof.** · **08-14-09, 08:16 PM**

Quote:

Jason IB wrote:

Hi Simon,

Fancy meeting you here :P Great thread on this forum too! Being that our rooms are at similar stages this thread has helped me out heaps. I gotta thanks "Prof" also for his input...BIG help.

Hi Jason IB..

Thanks for the kind words and welcome to the Shack..
There are many very experienced people here in all aspects of HT, only too willing to help you..
Just ask what ever you want to know..
I hope you enjoy your time with us..

**Prof.** · **08-14-09, 08:22 PM**

Quote:

raZorTT wrote:

FYI, looks like the accoustituff is about an extra $50-60 per sheet. A pack of 3 sheets is about $350. A smidge more than i'd hoped, but i'll wear the cost so I don't have to worry about putting the kraft paper on myself

. Not that stapling paper to a few frames would have been hard, but it helps me to justify it

I'll confirm the exact cost once I get the invoice on delivery, which hopefully will be in another week or so.

Cheers,
Simon

WOW Simon, that's quite a bit extra over the standard Ultratel!!
The last quote I got for the plain material was $199.00 / pack of 3..
With the amount of area you're looking at, that's going to be a very expensive job..

**raZorTT** · **08-14-09, 08:38 PM**

Quote:

Prof. wrote:

WOW Simon, that's quite a bit extra over the standard Ultratel!!
The last quote I got for the plain material was $199.00 / pack of 3..
With the amount of area you're looking at, that's going to be a very expensive job..

Hey prof

it is a bit extra but I'm only getting the one pack with acoustituff facing for the rear wall.

Cheers
Simon
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**raZorTT** · **08-20-09, 06:06 PM**

my 6 zone Lutron Grafik Eye QS has arrived

Lutron GE QS
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With a little luck the electrician will come early next week to install it.

My planned zones are:

1. Star ceiling
2. Light tray
3. Soffit lights
4. Main downlights (in ceiling)
5. Step lights
6. Screen wash

Cheers,
Simon

**bpape** · **08-20-09, 06:28 PM**

Make sure you put in the deepest box you can get. That thing is thick and LOTS of wires in there. Some people actually use 2 boxes.

Bryan

**raZorTT** · **08-20-09, 06:46 PM**

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bpape wrote:

Make sure you put in the deepest box you can get. That thing is thick and LOTS of wires in there. Some people actually use 2 boxes.

Bryan

Hi Bryan,

I picked up the gang box at the same time does that usually suffice? Or will it still be a pretty tight fit?

Gang box

Cheers,
Simon

**bpape** · **08-20-09, 06:53 PM**

Looks pretty deep but hard to say. When I did mine, the standard depth box wasn't going to work. Had to hunt a while to find an extra deep one.

The folks that use the 2nd box use it to tie grounds outside the main box.

How deep is the one you have?

Bryan

**raZorTT** · **08-20-09, 07:00 PM**

Quote:

bpape wrote:

Looks pretty deep but hard to say. When I did mine, the standard depth box wasn't going to work. Had to hunt a while to find an extra deep one.

The folks that use the 2nd box use it to tie grounds outside the main box.

How deep is the one you have?

Bryan

It's nearly 4" high, 8" wide and 3" deep.

3" doesn't sound very deep when you have factor in the back of the GE sitting in there

Cheers,
Simon

**Prof.** · **08-20-09, 08:44 PM**

Quote:

raZorTT wrote:

my 6 zone Lutron Grafik Eye QS has arrived

Lutron GE QS
Profile
Controls

With a little luck the electrician will come early next week to install it.

My planned zones are:

1. Star ceiling
2. Light tray
3. Soffit lights
4. Main downlights (in ceiling)
5. Step lights
6. Screen wash

Cheers,
Simon

Very nice Simon..

Did you get the unit locally somewhere?

**raZorTT** · **08-20-09, 08:58 PM**

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Prof. wrote:

Very nice Simon..

Did you get the unit locally somewhere?

Hi Prof,

No I bought it from the UK.

http://www.mr-resistor.co.uk/

They have a fantastic range of lighting products. I'm considering some of the LED ropelight for my light tray and step lights. Their customer service was excellent and they dispatched it within 2 hours of me ringing my CC through. It was in Sydney waiting customs clearance on Monday after me ringing through the Thursday night.

Cheers,
Simon

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