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post #31 of 461 Old 03-08-12, 05:41 PM Thread Starter
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I agree, great progression. Nice........
Thank you very much!
It is hard to remember how much it has changed until I go back and look at the old pictures... just because it happens so slowly. It was fun to post this up and see it again.

For me the movie area finally looked like a "movie room" when I got all of the equipment out of the front of the room. Before that it just looked like a living room to me.
I'm really happy with the progress so far, and the reactions we get from friends and family when they come over always make me smile


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Thank you very much!

That was another idea I had been tossing around... The mirrors are approximately 5' high and total 16' in length - so I'm sure that making them into a giant acoustic panel would definitely cover first reflection points on the left wall!

I wasn't sure if that would throw things off since I won' t be able to duplicate it on the opposite wall?
Hmmm.... it probably would if you were not able to maintain some level of symmetry - scrap that idea!

I will continue to stir the contents of my addled brain to see if I can come up with anything else.....


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Hmmm.... it probably would if you were not able to maintain some level of symmetry - scrap that idea!

I will continue to stir the contents of my addled brain to see if I can come up with anything else.....
I appreciate the thoughts ideas!


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Aaron,

After a bit more stewing, here are my thoughts:

1. Covering them with MDF might be the same as putting up acoustic panels - wouldn't that throw off the room symmetry unless you cover the entire wall? I am assuming that you would not just cover the face - you would "box" them in.

2. If you are able to get the mirrors off, are you going to be able to remove the adhesive well enough to paint over? I have noticed even with 2 sided tape that has been up awhile that painting that spot always looks different than the rest of the wall.

If it were mine, I think I would base my approach on my plans for how long I was staying in the house - barring unforseen circumstances of course. If I am planning a move in the next 5 years, I think I would continue to cover them as you have and live with it. If this was more of a long term stay, I would probably tackle completely removing the mirrors and drywall and patching it.

Still thinking on this one - but that is what I have so far.......


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Aaron,

After a bit more stewing, here are my thoughts:

1. Covering them with MDF might be the same as putting up acoustic panels - wouldn't that throw off the room symmetry unless you cover the entire wall? I am assuming that you would not just cover the face - you would "box" them in.

2. If you are able to get the mirrors off, are you going to be able to remove the adhesive well enough to paint over? I have noticed even with 2 sided tape that has been up awhile that painting that spot always looks different than the rest of the wall.

If it were mine, I think I would base my approach on my plans for how long I was staying in the house - barring unforseen circumstances of course. If I am planning a move in the next 5 years, I think I would continue to cover them as you have and live with it. If this was more of a long term stay, I would probably tackle completely removing the mirrors and drywall and patching it.

Still thinking on this one - but that is what I have so far.......
1) I was kind of thinking more in terms of acoustically symmetrical rather than visually. I'm barely a novice at understanding room acoustics, but my thought was doing panels on one side would make for some difficult to control sound?
2) That is the big question I've had in my head... "how bad will it be?" Judging from the size of the blobs of construction adhesive that I can feel (by sliding a wire behind the mirror) - there will be some pretty significant damage to the wall. This is why I've been avoiding it It was actually the first thing I wanted to do when we moved in - but then I realized how much work was going to be involved.
The plan right now is to stay in the house for "a while" - we just spent 4 years trying to sell a condo, and almost a year searching to find this place... so there is very little desire to move again unless we hit the lottery tonight

The more I think about it the more it seems like just biting the bullet and replacing the drywall is the only good option to get the room to look like I want. I can't really afford to lose much width because we need a walkway on the right hand side to get to the closet/mechanical room.

In the perfect world I would be able to move the entrance to those rooms to inside or next to the large closet near the door to the movie room - then I could put in a riser with 2 rows of theater seats, build a stage at the front, and eventually move to a front projection setup!

Long term plan for the movie space is to pull down all the drywall and reinstall it with double drywall and green glue with isolation clips for sound isolation, double drywall/green glue the ceiling with isolation clips, real home theater seating, projector/screen... basically make it a real dedicated room. Right now the whole house shakes when I watch movies - so the isolation is definitely in the plans when I can devote more to the budget.


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ALMFamily - just started reading through your build thread... I'm only on page 3, so I'm just getting started - looks like a pretty detailed write up so I'm sure it's going to be a good read!


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Aaron,

Sometimes, I think I went waaay overboard with detail.... Please feel free to comment / poke fun!

If you have an opportunity, read raZorTT's (Simon) build thread. I warn you, it was over 80 pages as of last count, but it is well worth it. Another one I enjoyed was Moggie's on that other forum... Both of those had some fantastic ideas......

By the way, I was thinking acoustically symmetrical as well - the idea suggested earlier was to cover the mirrors with MDF. I do not think that would work for the same reason as the acoustic panels idea. Hate to say it - but I think re-drywalling might be your best bet / result.


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I love all the detail you put into your thread, I feel like I learned a lot from reading through it! It makes me want to rip out the whole room and start from scratch - but I don't think the wife would go for that! Ha!

I tend to go overboard with pictures ... but I like having a thorough "picture" of my journey

I guess I wasn't completely thinking through the idea of MDF causing a sound difference, but it makes sense that adding a layer of dense wood with an air gap would change the acoustics!
I have zero experience hanging drywall and I am terrible at patching so I will have to really think this through... A good friend of mine is president/owner of one of the more well known home improvement companies around here - I may have to get some estimates!


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No real updates... added a few new items to the bar area including a Corona neon wall clock...

Re-ran Harman/Kardon's room correction (EZSet/EQ) yesterday, and had some strange results... It is terrible at guessing the distances and even the sub size - but things sound decent. Much better than when I ran it last time. For some reason it set my sub level to -10... which didn't even register on my SPL meter when I manually double checked things. I ended up bringing that up to -4.

I hadn't been using it for the last year because it just didn't sound right...

Ran some sweeps in REW to see just what it was doing to the sound - and it seemed to even out a few of the dips. I don't know if I like it or not - makes music sound like something is missing... maybe I'm just used to hearing "messed up" sound.


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Okay... The mirror situation is about to be taken care of!

I talked with my friend that owns the home improvement company to get a quote on having his guys remove the mirrors and replace the drywall - and instead he said "I'll come over this weekend and get the mirrors down and patch the drywall"!! So - looks like the mirrors will FINALLY be gone!!

I'll be picking up 2 gallons of "sorcerer's hat" blue paint too - so the room will be finally "done" for the time being!!


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