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I think it depends on preference a little. From my experience I like my surround speakers to be behind me, or at the very least directly to the side of my ears, never in front. I also planned to use my back row at least as much as the front row. So I put mine slightly behind my back row. I definitely hear them more in the back row, but they are always coming from the right direction.

As far as the subfloor goes, if you're only doing it for running wires it seems like an awful lot of expense, not to mention diminishing your ceiling height, when you could just use conduit and put everything in the ceiling. To get wires to my bar and riser I put in a small raised floor section behind the bar, rather than raising the entire floor.
Well I figured it would also give me the tactile feel when the subs are running... Plus if I put the 2 DTS-10 subs under the second row I will need to have the front row a little higher or they won't clear the raised platform when someone reclines as the back of the seat will be almost right next to the platform. The reason for the seating platform like this is the seats are designed to be up against the back wall and when you recline the seat rolls out frontwards... Which is real nice but then it takes up the walking area and I have to extend that a bit more. too.

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Well I figured it would also give me the tactile feel when the subs are running... Plus if I put the 2 DTS-10 subs under the second row I will need to have the front row a little higher or they won't clear the raised platform when someone reclines as the back of the seat will be almost right next to the platform. The reason for the seating platform like this is the seats are designed to be up against the back wall and when you recline the seat rolls out frontwards... Which is real nice but then it takes up the walking area and I have to extend that a bit more. too.
As long as it doesn’t hurt you too much on your headroom. I'm thinking about your HVAC soffit near the entrance mostly. The LF transmission and recliner headroom can be solved in other ways, but ceiling/floor height can't be changed later.


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What no jubilee bass bins?

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As long as it doesn’t hurt you too much on your headroom. I'm thinking about your HVAC soffit near the entrance mostly. The LF transmission and recliner headroom can be solved in other ways, but ceiling/floor height can't be changed later.
My seating in the 2nd row will be 2' from the wall, so it won't be effected by the soffit. Our ceiling right now is 9' so we will still have around 6 1/2' or more after the soffit and raised floor.

When I do my diffusers on the rear wall, do I do the whole wall floor to ceiling or do I just do the part that is above the seats when they are fully reclined?

One other reason for doing the wiring in the floor is we figured it would be easier to access if we ever needed to get at it under the carpet vs in the walls. .

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What no jubilee bass bins?
I will be doing DIY 1/4 pie bass bins with JBL 2360A horns. I can't even think about how much it would cost to go the Jubilee route. I went with the JBLs because I will only have $700 invested in the pair of horns, drivers whereas the Jubilee horns are $1k each... The bass bins will be around $400-500 total... Jubilee bass bins would be way more. I will have less invested in the bass bins, horns, drivers, and minidsp than just a pair of Jubilee horns and drivers would cost. Way over budget for me for Jubilees, with hopefully not a lot of difference in sound.

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I would only go Jubs if I DIY them. I have seen a few threads on others building DIY versions. PLUS there is also the Jamboree and other bass bins designs you can build yourself. Either way you will have plenty. I was just mess'n with ya.

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I would only go Jubs if I DIY them. I have seen a few threads on others building DIY versions. PLUS there is also the Jamboree and other bass bins designs you can build yourself. Either way you will have plenty. I was just mess'n with ya.
The DIYs I saw on the Jubilees didn't look easy by any means. Check out the DIY for the 1/4 pie bass bins... You should be able to whip them up in a day!

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What no jubilee bass bins?
Now that would be the way to go.


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I would only go Jubs if I DIY them. I have seen a few threads on others building DIY versions. PLUS there is also the Jamboree and other bass bins designs you can build yourself. Either way you will have plenty. I was just mess'n with ya.
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PLUS there is also the Jamboree and other bass bins designs you can build yourself.
Now we're talking.

Jubilees bass bins I think run approx 4000-6000 depending on finish for a pair, not including crossovers.

The K402 with drivers run approx 2000.00 Just saying, that is a lot of dough for someone who is trying to be budget friendly, Someone just sold a pair with passive networks, 510 horns and drivers for under 5500.00. That would have been a deal.


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I wouldn't have even went with the JBLs if I hadn't found out I could get away with the miniDSPs for crossovers.

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