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Re: Ellis Family Retirement HT: Go big or go home

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I'm presuming the mounts are not angle adjustable?
Nope...they are set at 20 degrees. The only other thing I can think of is to have a pair of mounts made to make it parallel to the walls. I need to do this down the road for my Atmos speakers too.

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I was imagining a wedge shaped shim between the wall and mount at whatever angle would point your speaker correctly. I think a table saw jig would make that simple. Maybe?
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I was imagining a wedge shaped shim between the wall and mount at whatever angle would point your speaker correctly. I think a table saw jig would make that simple. Maybe?
I have an idea...

Here is the mount... http://www.jblpro.com/ProductAttachments/2516.pdf

What i am thinking is to just use the side that mounts to the speaker (which will also place the speaker closer to the wall, which is a plus), and then bend the piece with the screw holes to give me the right angle. Then i can make a wedge (like you suggested) for the bottom support. By going this way i can also use the same mounts for my ceiling mounts for Atmos.

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Re: Ellis Family Retirement HT: Go big or go home

Just put the new lamp in the projector... Man is it brighter, and sharper then it was. Just goes to show that as it ages we don't notice it getting dimmer, and softer.

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I have an idea... Here is the mount... http://www.jblpro.com/ProductAttachments/2516.pdf What i am thinking is to just use the side that mounts to the speaker (which will also place the speaker closer to the wall, which is a plus), and then bend the piece with the screw holes to give me the right angle. Then i can make a wedge (like you suggested) for the bottom support. By going this way i can also use the same mounts for my ceiling mounts for Atmos.
I think that would be successful. Good thinkin!
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I think that would be successful. Good thinkin!
On further thought... I am thinking a hinge attached to the mounting bracket would also allow me to adjust to the exact angle required.

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Yesterday, we got the new amps (Lexicon, and Sherbourne) wired into the system, and did a couple of tunes...

The audio is much cleaner in the vocal area, and we have an abundance of high frequencies now too. One problem i have is i am getting hiss from the horns when there is no music or video playing. I tried removing the 12db high shelf, and cutting the output down on the MiniDSP 2x4, but it is still there. I have zero ground loops this time.

Another issue is that i am getting more ambience then before...not sure if it is always supposed to be there or if it is a settings issue.

With Audyssey you could sit in the front or 2nd row, and it was excellent...now in the 2nd row the surrounds are too overpowering. In the front row it is much more immersive than it was with Audyssey, and with stereo tracks i found myself checking to make sure the surrounds were not on. The soundstage is wider than it was before, and while in the 1st row it sounds like you are in the front row of a club listening to music. In the 2nd row it sounds like you are in the middle of a club.

Today I am going to try different combos to see if:
1: I can eliminate the hiss
2: Reduce the ambience just a tad to make it sound right

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I am working with jtalden to get my front 3 channels working properly again in bi-amp. We had to redo the tune when the horn drivers were swapped out (thought they were blown, but it turned out only one was). We now have the original drivers in (with a BNIB Old Stock diaphragm for the center). I have been communicating with MiniDSP on the hiss, and it appears there are a few ways to solve it... change the jumpers inDDRC-88A to 4v, and then rewire as unbalanced, and or use attenuators. I have the jumpers set to 4v so now I am going to try the attenuators first as it is the simplest way to work around it.

I also have the first pair of speakers on the way for Atmos. I am going with the JBL 8320 for the ceiling. I am going this way since I like the 8340A speakers (which are 1/2 the weight of the Klipsch HIPs) we are using for our side surrounds, and they are half of the weight of the JBL 8340A. I figure I would rather have a 11lb speaker over my head than a 19lb speaker...although I don't want either falling on me or someone else. In addition the 11lb is less likely to fall vs the 19lb (IMO). For the time being the speakers for the ceiling will just be hung in the appropriate positions on the ceiling, hooked up to the power amp, and then just wait until I find the Atmos AVP I want (next year). I am still looking for one more pair of 8320, and another pair of 8340As for the setup. Hopefully I will have the hiss gone and the room tuned by this weekend. Time to start watching movies on the Big Screen, and listening to music again!

Meanwhile I am working on selling the (4) Klipsch HIPs, (2) SR70s, (4) Yamaha P2500s amps, (2) HDHomerun tuners, and (2)Topping T-chip amps.

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Did a little playing around with the minidsp 2x4 for the DTS-10s, and tuned the room with the Dirac DDRC-88A. I had to go in and tell the Dirac not to boost the Bass Bins below 80hz, and tell it not to boost the DTS-10s above 80hz. I ended up with this on the subs... How does that look?

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Re: Ellis Family Retirement HT: Go big or go home

Left and right main...



Center channel...



Subs...


JBL 8340A side surrounds...


Klipsch HIPs (rear surrounds until I get more JBLs)...


Whatcha think?

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