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| Home Theater Projectors Misconvergence/Chromatic aberration: post screenshots hereDiscuss Misconvergence/Chromatic aberration: post screenshots here in the Home Theater | Audio and Video forum; Misconvergence/Chromatic aberration: post screenshots here We know that misconvergence is common to 3LCD projectors because they have 3 panels that have to converge at a ... |
| Home Theater Projectors Misconvergence/Chromatic aberration: post screenshots hereDiscuss Misconvergence/Chromatic aberration: post screenshots here in the Home Theater | Audio and Video forum; Misconvergence/Chromatic aberration: post screenshots here We know that misconvergence is common to 3LCD projectors because they have 3 panels that have to converge at a ... |
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| We know that misconvergence is common to 3LCD projectors because they have 3 panels that have to converge at a single point. Failure to do so results in misconvergence. Misconvergence will vary from projector to another but won't vary given a single projector either it is used in telephoto or wide angle. Chromatic Aberration on the other hand may vary to some degree, and might be best in a telephoto setup. Chromatic aberration has a different origin than misconvergence as it does not happen in the panels, but in the lens. I'll try to make it as simple as possible by saying it is distortion in colours produced by the lens. It is the lens that causes different colors not to focus at a single point. Basically Chromatic aberration is caused by a lens having a different refractive index for different wavelengths of light. There are two types of chromatic aberration: 1) Longitudinal chromatic aberration (tracking error):Difference colors (wavelengths) will focus on different image planes. Projectors use zoom lenses and therefore this form of aberration will affect the picture to certain extent. The amount varies as the lens is zoomed. This form is easier corrected in lenses whereas the following is more difficult 2) Lateral chromatic aberration (registration error): This is due to the lens magnifying different wavelengths differently. Chromatic aberration makes "fringes" of colors around the image (see image below obtained from Wikipedia). Yamaha RX-V2500, Wharfedale Diamond 9.6 Fronts, Wharfedale Diamond CM Center, Diamond DFS Surround and rear, Behringer FBQ 2496, Dual RL-P18s 625L LLTs, Dual TA-2400 Pro (2 * 2000 W Amp), Samsung HD870 DVD player, Carada BW 16:9 106" screen, Epson TW-2000, 60 Gb PS3 Important HT proverbs: - "You can never have too much headroom" (talking about bass) - "you can never have too big a screen" (talking about still pictures) Projector selection basics Epson TW 2000 review | |||
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| Re: Misconvergence vs Chromatic aberration Epson pro UB (TW2000) has been criticised quite a lotfor QC issues and specially misconvergence. Depending on screen location, my unit has from perfect to 1.5 pixel red misconvergence (Red is worst, as most visible). It also has some green misconvergence from perfect to 1 pixel. What comes in mind is it is not very easy to perfectly adjust LCD panels to obtain no deviation, and I also beleive this problem is associated with any 3 LCD projector but probably with difference tolerances. If I look for it I can definitely see its effect from watching position on credits and high contrast scenes, but it is not distractive unless I concentrate hard on it. What about misconvergence with your projectors, pls describe! Thanks! Yamaha RX-V2500, Wharfedale Diamond 9.6 Fronts, Wharfedale Diamond CM Center, Diamond DFS Surround and rear, Behringer FBQ 2496, Dual RL-P18s 625L LLTs, Dual TA-2400 Pro (2 * 2000 W Amp), Samsung HD870 DVD player, Carada BW 16:9 106" screen, Epson TW-2000, 60 Gb PS3 Important HT proverbs: - "You can never have too much headroom" (talking about bass) - "you can never have too big a screen" (talking about still pictures) Projector selection basics Epson TW 2000 review | |||
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| Re: Misconvergence vs Chromatic aberration Here are screen center, worst and best ... Pls post yours and discuss!Yamaha RX-V2500, Wharfedale Diamond 9.6 Fronts, Wharfedale Diamond CM Center, Diamond DFS Surround and rear, Behringer FBQ 2496, Dual RL-P18s 625L LLTs, Dual TA-2400 Pro (2 * 2000 W Amp), Samsung HD870 DVD player, Carada BW 16:9 106" screen, Epson TW-2000, 60 Gb PS3 Important HT proverbs: - "You can never have too much headroom" (talking about bass) - "you can never have too big a screen" (talking about still pictures) Projector selection basics Epson TW 2000 review | |||
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| Re: Misconvergence/Chromatic aberration: post screenshots here Does this mean nobody's having misconvergence issues?? Well that's good news but hard to believe! ![]() Yamaha RX-V2500, Wharfedale Diamond 9.6 Fronts, Wharfedale Diamond CM Center, Diamond DFS Surround and rear, Behringer FBQ 2496, Dual RL-P18s 625L LLTs, Dual TA-2400 Pro (2 * 2000 W Amp), Samsung HD870 DVD player, Carada BW 16:9 106" screen, Epson TW-2000, 60 Gb PS3 Important HT proverbs: - "You can never have too much headroom" (talking about bass) - "you can never have too big a screen" (talking about still pictures) Projector selection basics Epson TW 2000 review | |||
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| Re: Misconvergence/Chromatic aberration: post screenshots here Great! A DLP will not have such misconvergence problems, but it might be prone to some chromatic aberration. I would like to see a panasonic 2000 and other LCDs screenshot. Yamaha RX-V2500, Wharfedale Diamond 9.6 Fronts, Wharfedale Diamond CM Center, Diamond DFS Surround and rear, Behringer FBQ 2496, Dual RL-P18s 625L LLTs, Dual TA-2400 Pro (2 * 2000 W Amp), Samsung HD870 DVD player, Carada BW 16:9 106" screen, Epson TW-2000, 60 Gb PS3 Important HT proverbs: - "You can never have too much headroom" (talking about bass) - "you can never have too big a screen" (talking about still pictures) Projector selection basics Epson TW 2000 review | |||
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| Re: Misconvergence/Chromatic aberration: post screenshots here Quote:
![]() Yamaha RX-V2500, Wharfedale Diamond 9.6 Fronts, Wharfedale Diamond CM Center, Diamond DFS Surround and rear, Behringer FBQ 2496, Dual RL-P18s 625L LLTs, Dual TA-2400 Pro (2 * 2000 W Amp), Samsung HD870 DVD player, Carada BW 16:9 106" screen, Epson TW-2000, 60 Gb PS3 Important HT proverbs: - "You can never have too much headroom" (talking about bass) - "you can never have too big a screen" (talking about still pictures) Projector selection basics Epson TW 2000 review | ||||
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| Re: Misconvergence/Chromatic aberration: post screenshots here Welcome Timo ![]() A degree of misconvergence will most of the time exist in LCD projectors. How bad is it on your projector? Do you see it from watching distance? Post a screenshot. Yamaha RX-V2500, Wharfedale Diamond 9.6 Fronts, Wharfedale Diamond CM Center, Diamond DFS Surround and rear, Behringer FBQ 2496, Dual RL-P18s 625L LLTs, Dual TA-2400 Pro (2 * 2000 W Amp), Samsung HD870 DVD player, Carada BW 16:9 106" screen, Epson TW-2000, 60 Gb PS3 Important HT proverbs: - "You can never have too much headroom" (talking about bass) - "you can never have too big a screen" (talking about still pictures) Projector selection basics Epson TW 2000 review | |||
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| Re: Misconvergence/Chromatic aberration: post screenshots here I have noticed misconvergence is almost imperceptible on high resolution material. I have just watched Ice Age 2 on BD but couldn't find any sign of misconvergence at all .This phenomenon is accentuated once the resolution and transfer are not top notch such as poorly mastered DVDs or SD TV. Yamaha RX-V2500, Wharfedale Diamond 9.6 Fronts, Wharfedale Diamond CM Center, Diamond DFS Surround and rear, Behringer FBQ 2496, Dual RL-P18s 625L LLTs, Dual TA-2400 Pro (2 * 2000 W Amp), Samsung HD870 DVD player, Carada BW 16:9 106" screen, Epson TW-2000, 60 Gb PS3 Important HT proverbs: - "You can never have too much headroom" (talking about bass) - "you can never have too big a screen" (talking about still pictures) Projector selection basics Epson TW 2000 review | |||
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| Re: Misconvergence/Chromatic aberration: post screenshots here Yes i can get a screen shot of it for you if you like. I don't notice it watching movies really. Although they might appear sharper or more detailed if the convergence was correct ? I see it on text. Its most obvious when i bring up the projectors main menu and all the text has green down one side and red down the other. I will snap a pic of it tomorrow to show you. | |||
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| Re: Misconvergence/Chromatic aberration: post screenshots here If you're up to 1 pixel, it's pretty normal foran LCD. It is unfeasible to perfectly align such panels. We wouldn't be able to own such a perfect projector. Sometimes, these panels also take a hit during shipping, so it might not be fully controllable. But if it does not bother on program material, that's it ... just enjoy ![]() Yamaha RX-V2500, Wharfedale Diamond 9.6 Fronts, Wharfedale Diamond CM Center, Diamond DFS Surround and rear, Behringer FBQ 2496, Dual RL-P18s 625L LLTs, Dual TA-2400 Pro (2 * 2000 W Amp), Samsung HD870 DVD player, Carada BW 16:9 106" screen, Epson TW-2000, 60 Gb PS3 Important HT proverbs: - "You can never have too much headroom" (talking about bass) - "you can never have too big a screen" (talking about still pictures) Projector selection basics Epson TW 2000 review | |||
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| Re: Misconvergence/Chromatic aberration: post screenshots here My Sanyo was out by just a slight bit but was able to correct it in the service menu and it made a huge difference. Home theater: Onkyo TXSR805 receiver, Samson Servo 4120 bridged @240wattsX2, 2-Mission 765 Mains, 4-762i's Rears, SVS PB13 Ultra, AR center PSC25, 2 Audio control C131 EQ's Toshiba HD A2 & Samsung BDP1400 DVD players, Sanyo Z2 projector Two Channel system: Yamaha RX-V995, Mission 764i towers, & A/D/S MS3u sub Yamaha KX-393 Tape deck, CDC 805 5 disc CD changer, LG DV7832NXC DVD player, Motorola HD-PVR, Sony KP-53HS30 rear projection HDTV, turntable PS-T20 | |||
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| Re: Misconvergence/Chromatic aberration: post screenshots here You're really lucky to be able to access the service menu and even more to be able to control misconvergence in a way ![]() How bad was it and how good is it now? Yamaha RX-V2500, Wharfedale Diamond 9.6 Fronts, Wharfedale Diamond CM Center, Diamond DFS Surround and rear, Behringer FBQ 2496, Dual RL-P18s 625L LLTs, Dual TA-2400 Pro (2 * 2000 W Amp), Samsung HD870 DVD player, Carada BW 16:9 106" screen, Epson TW-2000, 60 Gb PS3 Important HT proverbs: - "You can never have too much headroom" (talking about bass) - "you can never have too big a screen" (talking about still pictures) Projector selection basics Epson TW 2000 review | |||
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| Re: Misconvergence/Chromatic aberration: post screenshots here Very much like your first picture the red and blue were off in both directions but now its almost bang on. I was able to adjust vertical and horizontal on both the red and blue panels, I left the green alone. even though its 720p HD looks great. Home theater: Onkyo TXSR805 receiver, Samson Servo 4120 bridged @240wattsX2, 2-Mission 765 Mains, 4-762i's Rears, SVS PB13 Ultra, AR center PSC25, 2 Audio control C131 EQ's Toshiba HD A2 & Samsung BDP1400 DVD players, Sanyo Z2 projector Two Channel system: Yamaha RX-V995, Mission 764i towers, & A/D/S MS3u sub Yamaha KX-393 Tape deck, CDC 805 5 disc CD changer, LG DV7832NXC DVD player, Motorola HD-PVR, Sony KP-53HS30 rear projection HDTV, turntable PS-T20 | |||
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| Re: Misconvergence/Chromatic aberration: post screenshots here Thanks a lot. The only difference is my FP resolution is 1080p which makes 1 pixel quite smaller than a 720 P FP. Yamaha RX-V2500, Wharfedale Diamond 9.6 Fronts, Wharfedale Diamond CM Center, Diamond DFS Surround and rear, Behringer FBQ 2496, Dual RL-P18s 625L LLTs, Dual TA-2400 Pro (2 * 2000 W Amp), Samsung HD870 DVD player, Carada BW 16:9 106" screen, Epson TW-2000, 60 Gb PS3 Important HT proverbs: - "You can never have too much headroom" (talking about bass) - "you can never have too big a screen" (talking about still pictures) Projector selection basics Epson TW 2000 review | |||
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