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post #1 of 7 Old 12-27-10, 02:36 PM Thread Starter
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which receiver would you get?

I am looking at either a new marantz NR 1501 which i can get for around 350, or try and get used denon 3808 from ebay or craigslist. It looks like I might be able to get into the denon for around 500. I know the denon is the superior receiver with more features, but I have also read some good things about the marantz and of course I could get that new and not have to risk getting a used denon that might have some problems. It would be for a dedicated home theater with a projector and other hdmi components. The room is about 400 square feet and the receiver won't be having to power anything other than a 5.1 setup. I am leaning towards the marantz, and would love to hear some feedback about some of the advantages of the denon and why it might be worth getting it used over the marantz. thank you in advance for any help.


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post #2 of 7 Old 12-27-10, 03:44 PM
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Re: which receiver would you get?

The AVR-3808 is an excellent AVR that boasts better Build Quality and a more powerful Amplifier Section than the Marantz you are looking at. An important factor is how important 3D is to you. If you already have an HDTV you are happy with that is 2D, the 3808 would be an excellent choice. That being said, the NR1501 is also an HDMI 1.3 AVR like the AVR-3808.

Another worthy choice on the Used Market is Onkyo's TX-SR805. This AVR is truly my favorite AVR in the HDMI Era in terms of value. It offers THX Ultra 2 Certification, Made in Japan, Audyssey MultEQ XT, and more. When Test Benched, the 805 Output over 100 Watts Per Channel into 5 and 7 Channels.

From the Home Theater Magazine Review:
"Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1 percent distortion at 162.0 watts
1 percent distortion at 184.5 watts

All channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1 percent distortion at 120.4 watts
1 percent distortion at 151.7 watts

This graph shows that the TX-SR805’s left channel, from CD input to speaker output with two channels driving 8-ohm loads, reaches 0.1 percent distortion at 181.8 watts and 1 percent distortion at 212.3 watts. Into 4 ohms, the amplifier reaches 0.1 percent distortion at 327.6 watts and 1 percent distortion at 369.0 watts."

In truth, Onkyo's current AVR's do not come close to this level of Power. Even better, there is a TX-SR805 on Audiogon for 350 Dollars.

If you wanted to split the difference so to speak, you could also look at B-Stock or Refurbished AVR's. Dakmart sells Denons for a great price, Accessories4less offers Onkyo and Marantz both New and B-Stock, and Shop Onkyo just to name a few places.

The good thing about going this route as opposed to Used is that you still get a Warranty while still getting a much, much more expensive AVR than otherwise possible.

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Re: which receiver would you get?

I prefer a new/refurb receiver over a used one because electronics wear out quickly these days. But the 3808 is a great receiver and certainly worth the cash.
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Re: which receiver would you get?

I to would look at the Onkyo TX-SR805. That is just a great AVR all the way around.

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Re: which receiver would you get?

I agree with JJ completly. I have had my 3808 going on 4 years and have loved every minute of it, never had even a glitch of a problem.

I might have some concern with the used market however, i would do some research history on it before i took the plunge but they are really some of the best avr's that Denon has put out for the doller. If i were not to choose the used Denon then i would look into a refurbed Onkyo for the peace of mind of haveing a warrenty.
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Re: which receiver would you get?

The Marantz NR1501 is only 50 Watts per channel so unless you have efficient speakers it might not provide enough juice, especially in a 400 sqft room (What are the dimensions 25x16?).

I bought a used Denon 4306 about 3 years ago and have not had any problems with it. The original owner even provided the sales receipt which allowed 3 months of warranty.

I guess the main thing when buying used equipment is that you have no idea of how the previous owner treated it. In my case the original owner had the receiver in a well ventilated rack, it was in immaculate shape, and he said they he never drove it hard. Of course I had to take his word on that.

If you can inspect/listen to the 3808 before buying it would be recommended unless you can get a 7 or more day warranty/return on it. Otherwise you are taking a little bit of a risk.
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Re: which receiver would you get?

The marantz unit is a great receiver for small systems, I would never sell it to a customer for a theater, only 50w and no pre-amp outputs.

I would take the denon out of the two choices listed, or go the refurb route and get a good marantz or onkyo from A4L.
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