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post #211 of 944 Old 04-20-12, 02:27 PM
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Re: Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 Official Thread

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Yes, you want to measure as many positions as allowed. Part of what it's doing is getting a reading of your room. Think of it as mapping your room. I also only have 2 main listening positions but when the kids or guests come over sometimes more. I would do the full 8 positions if I were you.
Ok, I will try that. Will spend some quality time this weekend to tweak. Thanks.

Has anyone tried 3D movies with the 972? Do they work?
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Re: Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 Official Thread

It will pass 3D but at a lower resolution. Its better to run the HDMI directly to the display for 3D

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It will pass 3D but at a lower resolution. Its better to run the HDMI directly to the display for 3D
So if I connect the optical out from the blu-ray, I should be able to get DTS HD, etc.? Thanks.
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Re: Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 Official Thread

no, HDMI is the only way to get DTS MA or Dolby TruHD. You will need a HDMI splitter or a BluRay player that has two HDMI outputs.

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Panasonic PT-AE8000 on a 120" 2,35:1 fixed screen

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Re: Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 Official Thread

All 972's from AC4L will have 1.47 as Mark purchased S/N's remaining stock which were the newest.

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For those of you that have Bluray handshake issues, try using the HDMI1 connection.

I participate on a couple of R972 threads on another forum (a former Sherwood rep participates, as well as a Trinnov rep who's notes have been referenced here on HTS), and that has seem to do the trick with HDMI issues and BluRay players. Incidentally, I use a Oppo BDP-83, and it worked for me.

I use a FiOS HD DVR on HDMI1 with no issues except for sync'ing the sound codec during some channel changes and commercial breaks...really depends on what is happening with the codec stream, and can be a 2-3 sec delay.

The notes that have been referenced are excellent, and the Trinnov rep is constantly adding to it.

Sherwood has been known to have a pretty good pre/amp section, it holds true with the R-972 (I use external amps). I had a P-965 for a long time, and needed to get on HDMI. I almost went with an Onkyo pre/pro, but this deal came up and I am glad I took the gamble. The unit has its quirks, but none of them have bitten me....or been annoying.

I am VERY pleased with its sound capabilities, Trinnov EQ is very nice, but it is the spatial correction that I think sets it apart. I would not openly recommend the unit because if its quirks/issues...but the cohesiveness of the soundstage/surrounds is pretty amazing.

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Glad you could join us, cschang!

Most folks are using this for video/surround. I bought the R-972 to kick off my first foray into surround, but am primarily interested in 2.1 performance. Others have stated that the Newcastle does well with stereo. I would value your opinion on the matter, how do you feel the R-972 and Trinnov do with 2 channel music?

I have not run Trinnov yet, will do so tomorrow. Soon, I want to run REW before/after Trinnov, just for fun.

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Re: Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 Official Thread

Hey cschang, welcome aboard!

It would be great to have your input on this and other topics here at the Shack.
I use my 972 for 2.1 channel duty and so far love the sound.

Home theater:
Onkyo 805, Yamaha YDP2006EQ, Samson Servo 600 amp
3 EV Sentry 500 monitors across the front, 4 Mission 762i's Surrounds, SVS PB13U sub, Panasonic BDT220, Harmony 1100, Nintendo WiiU
Panasonic PT-AE8000 on a 120" 2,35:1 fixed screen

Living room system:
Sherwood/Newcastle R972, Mission 765's, SVS SBS02's, A/D/S MS3u sub, Yamaha YDG2030EQ
Yamaha KX-393 Tape deck, CDC 805 CD changer, Panasonic BD60, Sony turntable PS-T20
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Glad you could join us, cschang!

Most folks are using this for video/surround. I bought the R-972 to kick off my first foray into surround, but am primarily interested in 2.1 performance. Others have stated that the Newcastle does well with stereo. I would value your opinion on the matter, how do you feel the R-972 and Trinnov do with 2 channel music?

I have not run Trinnov yet, will do so tomorrow. Soon, I want to run REW before/after Trinnov, just for fun.
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Hey cschang, welcome aboard!

It would be great to have your input on this and other topics here at the Shack.
I use my 972 for 2.1 channel duty and so far love the sound.
Thanks guys..

For 2 channel music I think it does great.

I'm sure it is elsewhere in thread, but what the Trinnov spatial correction attempts to do is correct for proper placement of the speakers to match ITU and cinema standards. This means, for music, is to have the L/R channels 23 degrees off of center. My speakers are already close, but with Trinnov on, some information is still coming from my surrounds, so it creates a more enveloping soundstage...not unlike Dolby PL2 Music(but not the same). I like it, but the down side is that because it is pulling information and redistributing it behind me, it loses a bit of direct treble energy as if it was coming from in front of me.

These are the angles Trinnov tries to reproduce...

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ITU = 23(+/- deg), cinema = 30(+/- deg), and of course, center = 0.

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5.1 ITU = 110 (+/- deg), 5.1 cinema = 135, 6.1 cinema = 135 & 180. 7.1 cinema = 110, 150. ITU/music back angle is most critical of the bunch, as a specific speaker location is used in all ITU mixes. Cinema is not as critical, as it's expected there may be multiple surrounds.

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Re: Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 Official Thread

Ran Trinnov today. It sounded a quite thin, so I played with the settings a bit. Settled on:

EQ - Flat
Spatial Mode - None
Remapping - None

Sounds nice and full this way, with more bass. While the timbre is off what I am used to hearing, there is greater clarity.

One big problem I did not have before. Cranking up music near 0 dB causes the Sherwood to distort it's output to the mains and the sub amp greatly,with all speakers put out a horrible humming sound. If I am clipping the Sherwood's amp (unlikely, my mains are extraordinarily efficient), it should go into protection, not distort. I don't ordinarily listen at this level, just messing around.

Anybody else have this problem?

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