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Re: Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 Official Thread

No issue with mine, where did you have the mic placed when you ran trinnov?

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tess...you should try the +3dB and +6dB bass files.

Interesting that you do not like the spatial and remapping settings. What kind of angles did Trinnov measure? How many speakers do you have?
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Ran Trinnov today. It sounded a quite thin, so I played with the settings a bit. Settled on:

EQ - Flat
Spatial Mode - None
Remapping - None

Sounds nice and full this way, with more bass. While the timbre is off what I am used to hearing, there is greater clarity.

One big problem I did not have before. Cranking up music near 0 dB causes the Sherwood to distort it's output to the mains and the sub amp greatly,with all speakers put out a horrible humming sound. If I am clipping the Sherwood's amp (unlikely, my mains are extraordinarily efficient), it should go into protection, not distort. I don't ordinarily listen at this level, just messing around.

Anybody else have this problem?
Same here on the thin sound - any active spatial mode setting makes the sound thin w/ very little low bass activity. I haven't tried the bass curve files yet. Does anyone know if these curves activate only in the spatial mode, or apply to all settings?
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Same here on the thin sound - any active spatial mode setting makes the sound thin w/ very little low bass activity. I haven't tried the bass curve files yet. Does anyone know if these curves activate only in the spatial mode, or apply to all settings?
They apply when Trinnov EQ is on for the input.
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For level matched and proper distance settings...you should have the spatial mode at least set to LVL+DLY (level and delay), otherwise the system is not level matching or setting the delays for any channel. So not calibrated at all.

I suspect this is causing the thin sound with tess's setup...as well as the amp output issues.
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No issue with mine, where did you have the mic placed when you ran trinnov?
I stacked pillows in the listening position, keeping the mic as level as possible, red dot forward.

I know this is a terrible method, but I have only a week left to decide whether to send this back or not, so I ran it. I need to grab some velcro and a level, attaching the probe to my mic boom stand. Hate to buy a tripod just for this probe, I have more than enough gear around here.

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tess...you should try the +3dB and +6dB bass files.

Interesting that you do not like the spatial and remapping settings. What kind of angles did Trinnov measure? How many speakers do you have?
I might like them if the bass was there. With the settings set "Flat", bass sounds a little hot, just the way I prefer it. I do want LVL+DLY so I can take full advantage of Trinnov. I'll try LVL+DLY and increasing the sub amp gain level.

Running 2.1. Parameters are:

Front Left - H Angle 18 degrees, V Angle 89 degrees, 3.36 meters
Front Left - -6 dB point 126 Hz, Level -17 dB, Delay 9 ms

Front Right - H Angle -17 degrees, V Angle 89 degrees, 3.43 meters
Front Right - -6 dB point 126 Hz, Level -17 dB, Delay 10 ms

Subwoofer - H angle 0 degrees, V angle 0 degrees, 4.03 meters
Subwoofer - -6 dB point 19 Hz, Level -5 db, Delay 11 ms

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Pillows will defiantly interfere with the readings. You need to get it away from anything soft or it will dampen the true image it reads. If you have some tie straps you could tie it to the boom stand somehow.

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LVL+DLY is on, the imaging is fantastic. Cranked up the gain on the sub amp, still not enough bass.

Cannot get the distorted output at higher levels, I think you are right about the amp output issues, cschang.

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Pillows will defiantly interfere with the readings. You need to get it away from anything soft or it will dampen the true image it reads. If you have some tie straps you could tie it to the boom stand somehow.
Zip ties would work, also velcro will allow me to remount the probes as needed. I went into this planning to rerun Trinnov sometime later.

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