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post #561 of 944 Old 02-05-13, 08:15 PM
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Re: Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 Official Thread

Hi,
Yes, i have disconnected everything and reconnected everything.

The strange thing is that when i reset, everything is fine ( no trinnov) and the sounds for the calibration are fine and not distorted in any way, the problem lies with after the calibration and a static sounding noise whenever audio is sent though the front right speaker.

The audio is still strong and proper but with crackling in it, the pre out also has this noise. It is there regardless of what type of surround / stereo mode that I am in. Really gutted to say the least, especially since it did work for all of 1 hour or so.
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Hi,
Yes, i have disconnected everything and reconnected everything.

The strange thing is that when i reset, everything is fine ( no trinnov) and the sounds for the calibration are fine and not distorted in any way, the problem lies with after the calibration and a static sounding noise whenever audio is sent though the front right speaker.

The audio is still strong and proper but with crackling in it, the pre out also has this noise. It is there regardless of what type of surround / stereo mode that I am in. Really gutted to say the least, especially since it did work for all of 1 hour or so.
Someone said to open up the receiver and push down on one of the boards inside. A few have come loose during shipping. It is how one person fixed a similar issue on another forum.
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post #563 of 944 Old 02-05-13, 10:02 PM
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Re: Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 Official Thread

Hi, Thanks for the reply, I did see that post but I was not feeling brave enough to start opening up my newly arrived receiver. Anyway the plot thickens, I reset once again and re-ran Trinnov calibration and presto , No distortion on the front right, Fingers crossed: wave:

I popped in Tron Legacy on 3D Blu-ray into a Oppo Bdp-103 and on to a Optoma HD33 shooting at a 106" screen. Results of the internal processor are poor so I used the Oppo for Video out to the projector and sent audio only via hdmi to the Sherwood. PS - the Sherwood does indeed pass a 3D signal and actually shows up "3D Bypass Mode:" on the display.

Tron Legacy is a great reference disk because the audio track is a killer 7.1 MA encode and really gives a system a nice workout. My initial impressions are good, soundstage is much more fluid than my SR6004. The Calibration seems to do a far better job in blending my Monitor audio RS6 fronts and center with my Radius 225 surrounds and Radius 90 surround backs.

For 299 it was a complete no brainer, if it keeps working.

I'll report back soon with a follow up after I have had a chance to try out all the different setting and do a proper calibration/ test.

PS - One big negative for me is that it does not decode DSD bitstream from sa-cd. I kinds figured this would be the case as the specs made no mention of it.
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Re: Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 Official Thread

You should bypass the video scaler, it is junk.
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post #565 of 944 Old 02-05-13, 11:16 PM
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The receiver produces awesome sound however the mic placement is crucial and the 972 has its quirks meaning it is a little temperamental as it sometimes misses turning on the output to the speakers. (switching inputs fixes that).
Also it can take many attempts to get the center speaker to read 0 deg horizontal angle,

see http://www.cahoyt.com/Trinnov/R972Trinnov.pdf

and the R-972 user notes thread at AVS Forum
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post #566 of 944 Old 02-06-13, 11:31 AM
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Re: Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 Official Thread

This receiver is just awesome. For $299 as a pre-pro, it is a steal.

Quirky, buggy, but Trinnov is awesome. I haven't gotten much chance to test it, but when I did you really did feel like the speakers disappeared, which is tough to do in my sub optimal room and placement. The 6db gain file is a must though. 3D remapping and Room EQ: Flat kills bass response. This is compared to a calibrated sub coming from XT32, no gain adjusting on the sub to compensate.

Not sure which I like better fully yet though, XT32 or Trinnov. XT32 does a bit better on the EQ and sub, but Trinnov remapping is outstanding. My 4311 will probably be up for sale soon.
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Hi, could someone explain this 6db gain file to me.
Also with trinnov on an listing to 5.1 sacd my side surrounds sound
A little distant , as in the instruments sound very veiled, there appears to be
A very strong bias toward the front and center channel, any ideas?
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Re: Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 Official Thread

The 6db gain file ads a 6db boost to the lower frequencies around 40Hz making the sub channel a bit hotter.
Where did you have the Trinnov mic placed when you did the setup? was it on a tripod?

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Onkyo 805, Yamaha YDP2006EQ, Samson Servo 600 amp
3 EV Sentry 500 monitors across the front, 4 Mission 762i's Surrounds, SVS PB13U sub, Panasonic BDT220, Harmony 1100, Nintendo WiiU
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Sherwood/Newcastle R972, Mission 765's, SVS SBS02's, A/D/S MS3u sub, Yamaha YDG2030EQ
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Re: Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 Official Thread

I had the mic on a leveled tripod with the red dot aimed toward the center of my screen, basically aiming to where the voice would come from if it were a stage with actors. The height of the mic was set at ear level. I was wondering if I should point my radius 225 sides towards the listening point, it's a bit of a hassle because they are wall mounted on flat mounts.

Does the 6bd profile need to be loaded onto the sherwood? , if so is there a link to the file? Thanks again for all the input, it's frustrating but fun!
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Re: Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 Official Thread

Look here for info and the files.
You may need to move the speakers or try putting the mic in the seat on the tripod if you did not do that.

Home theater:
Onkyo 805, Yamaha YDP2006EQ, Samson Servo 600 amp
3 EV Sentry 500 monitors across the front, 4 Mission 762i's Surrounds, SVS PB13U sub, Panasonic BDT220, Harmony 1100, Nintendo WiiU
Panasonic PT-AE8000 on a 120" 2,35:1 fixed screen

Living room system:
Sherwood/Newcastle R972, Mission 765's, SVS SBS02's, A/D/S MS3u sub, Yamaha YDG2030EQ
Yamaha KX-393 Tape deck, CDC 805 CD changer, Panasonic BD60, Sony turntable PS-T20
Panasonic TC-P50ST60, HD-PVR & WDTV Live, Harmony 900

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