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post #51 of 944 Old 02-26-12, 03:16 PM
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Re: Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 impressions

I am curious too as to how to get +3db & +6db EQ curves. Perhaps somebody can provide a link.
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Re: Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 impressions

Ok, so I think I setup REW correctly.
Here is the graph of the results.

Red is without Trinnov
Green is after running Trinnov No subwoffer


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Onkyo 805, Yamaha YDP2006EQ, Samson Servo 600 amp
3 EV Sentry 500 monitors across the front, 4 Mission 762i's Surrounds, SVS PB13U sub, Panasonic BDT220, Harmony 1100, Nintendo WiiU
Panasonic PT-AE8000 on a 120" 2,35:1 fixed screen

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Sherwood/Newcastle R972, Mission 765's, SVS SBS02's, A/D/S MS3u sub, Yamaha YDG2030EQ
Yamaha KX-393 Tape deck, CDC 805 CD changer, Panasonic BD60, Sony turntable PS-T20
Panasonic TC-P50ST60, HD-PVR & WDTV Live, Harmony 900


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Kal... you also mentioned the two new EQ curves offering low-frequency increases of +3dB or +6dB. Do you (or any of you that have recently purchased this receiver) know if these curves are now included or can still be acquired?
Sorry Sonnie, it was my typo error saying $30,000 for the stand alone version of Trinnov it was supposed to say $13,000

As far as an EQ curve there are several curves that you can apply to the Trinnov:

Flat ) "Flattest response of all speakers"
audio phile 1) "adjusts the surround/centre channel speakers so that they match the characteristics of the mains"
audio phile 2) "adjusts the low frequency response of all speakers to correct the acoustics of the room"
Natural ) "adds a modest boost to frequencies below 200Hz and a slight cut above 10kHz"

Home theater:
Onkyo 805, Yamaha YDP2006EQ, Samson Servo 600 amp
3 EV Sentry 500 monitors across the front, 4 Mission 762i's Surrounds, SVS PB13U sub, Panasonic BDT220, Harmony 1100, Nintendo WiiU
Panasonic PT-AE8000 on a 120" 2,35:1 fixed screen

Living room system:
Sherwood/Newcastle R972, Mission 765's, SVS SBS02's, A/D/S MS3u sub, Yamaha YDG2030EQ
Yamaha KX-393 Tape deck, CDC 805 CD changer, Panasonic BD60, Sony turntable PS-T20
Panasonic TC-P50ST60, HD-PVR & WDTV Live, Harmony 900

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Thank you for the clarification.

I noticed in your "review" you mention the $13,000 "professional" version.

You are familiar with both, how would you compare XT32 vs. the R-972 Trinnov?
Hard to say since I did not have them side-by-side. What I recall is that the Trinnov in the Sherwood did an excellent job of regular speaker/roomEQ but was plagued by requiring attention to those additional EQ curves while Pro Trinnov, of course, would let the user manipulate those variables. Audyssey, especially XT32, has not, imho, had any such issues and Pro is available for those who want/need tweaking. My niggling issues with the Sherwood, as indicated in the review were not about Trinnov.

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Re: Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 impressions

Kal, are these "3db" and "6db" Hex files available to the general public that you got from Jeff Hipps of Sherwood?

Edit: I sent Sherwood a request and explained my situation so I will post back once I hear something from them.

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Onkyo 805, Yamaha YDP2006EQ, Samson Servo 600 amp
3 EV Sentry 500 monitors across the front, 4 Mission 762i's Surrounds, SVS PB13U sub, Panasonic BDT220, Harmony 1100, Nintendo WiiU
Panasonic PT-AE8000 on a 120" 2,35:1 fixed screen

Living room system:
Sherwood/Newcastle R972, Mission 765's, SVS SBS02's, A/D/S MS3u sub, Yamaha YDG2030EQ
Yamaha KX-393 Tape deck, CDC 805 CD changer, Panasonic BD60, Sony turntable PS-T20
Panasonic TC-P50ST60, HD-PVR & WDTV Live, Harmony 900


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Re: Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 impressions

Tony... I would be surprised if you could actually listen to either of those response curves for very long, unless your hearing drops off about 10db at 2kHz and continues to drop by 25db or more at 5kHz on up. Something is definitely wrong somewhere.

Your sub dropping off at 30-35Hz does not look right either.
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The sub is just a small 6.5" Yamaha so I doubt it goes much lower than that, I want to get one of those SVS SB12 NSDs but will wait till later for that as Ive spent enough LOL
As far as those readings from REW Im going to try again later this week and see whats up but I think the levels are ok below 2kHz as the CM140 isn't much good above 8kHz anyhow.

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Onkyo 805, Yamaha YDP2006EQ, Samson Servo 600 amp
3 EV Sentry 500 monitors across the front, 4 Mission 762i's Surrounds, SVS PB13U sub, Panasonic BDT220, Harmony 1100, Nintendo WiiU
Panasonic PT-AE8000 on a 120" 2,35:1 fixed screen

Living room system:
Sherwood/Newcastle R972, Mission 765's, SVS SBS02's, A/D/S MS3u sub, Yamaha YDG2030EQ
Yamaha KX-393 Tape deck, CDC 805 CD changer, Panasonic BD60, Sony turntable PS-T20
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Kal, are these "3db" and "6db" Hex files available to the general public that you got from Jeff Hipps of Sherwood?

Edit: I sent Sherwood a request and explained my situation so I will post back once I hear something from them.
I do not know for sure but the impression I got was that they would be provided to others "as needed."

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Jim,
You could always run Components to the TV and HDMI to the AVR and just switch TV Inputs when/if you want to watch TV with your HT off.
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Since my HDMI TV source is located about 35' away, I'm gonna stick with the HDMI/out from my DVR to HDMI/in on the TV, and run an optical connection from the TV to the 972 (as I have now). See any problems with that?

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Re: Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 impressions

Setup my receiver. Everything sounds great except the bass seems a bit off. Trinnov shows my subs -6bd point at 19hz. Can I increase the gain on the sub amp without throwing off Trinnov EQ for the sub? Wondering where can I obtain those low frequency +3db/+6db files to boost the low end.
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