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Yep, for some people the issues are a deal breaker. For others simply an annoyance. I fall into the latter part. I LOVE this thing now that I have it dialed in and everything working as expected. I thought the previous poster was kinda full of crapola when he said I would end up selling my Denon AVR-A100 and keep this! Go figure!
What is difficult setting up Trinnov? Is there more to set up after running Trinnov?
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Yep, for some people the issues are a deal breaker. For others simply an annoyance. I fall into the latter part. I LOVE this thing now that I have it dialed in and everything working as expected. I thought the previous poster was kinda full of crapola when he said I would end up selling my Denon AVR-A100 and keep this! Go figure!
+1 on the loving it. The sound is very detailed yet can't be localized. With my last receiver I could set my channel levels by listening to the sound. Now the sound envelopes the room and is all around you. It is as close to a theater as I have been able to get with this sickness, err, hobby.

On another note on a whim I loaded the +6db file again. It loaded just as it did the first time but the bass was definitely more prominent. My advice when in doubt load the file again. Happy tweeking.

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+1 on the loving it. The sound is very detailed yet can't be localized. With my last receiver I could set my channel levels by listening to the sound. Now the sound envelopes the room and is all around you. It is as close to a theater as I have been able to get with this sickness, err, hobby.

On another note on a whim I loaded the +6db file again. It loaded just as it did the first time but the bass was definitely more prominent. My advice when in doubt load the file again. Happy tweeking.
+2 on loving the 972 as well as far as SQ is concerned. Quirks aside I have no plans on getting another pre-pro or receiver until there is another option for Trinnov that is reasonably priced. Right now the only other options for Trinnov are there own standalone units and the ADA standalone which are in the $10K range or the $40K Cinema Reference pre-pro......yikes This is what makes the 972 so unique, getting Trinnov for a bargain basement price, you just have to put up with the quirks.

I have had to load the +6db bass file sometimes 4 to 5 times before it takes, your right though, you can tell when it does finally take but I usually just measure with my SMS-1. This is another quirk with the 972, if you check the DSP it can say the +6db file is loaded but it doesn't always take, you have to measure or listen to verify it has been loaded.
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The daily use quirk is that video from HDMI syncs first and 5 seconds later the audio syncs. When using DVR or channel surfing one must learn a little patience. While this delay annoys my wife, we still use the R-972 for all our TV viewing. Once you've heard the sonic improvement it's very hard to go back.

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Normally, Trinnov setup is no more difficult than any other room correction system. Place the microphone, press start, go away for 10 minutes and save the results. Some users are very rigorous and keep re-aiming the microphone and re-running setup until their center speaker reports that it is located at 0 degrees. (I am not convinced that missing by a degree or two is audible.)

Sometimes, however, one or more of the speakers is hard to locate in 3D space and then it can become a trying "trial and error" action to capture accurate data.

Of the couple hundred Trinnov calibrations I ran while I was at Sherwood, only a handful fell into the latter category.

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Normally, Trinnov setup is no more difficult than any other room correction system. Place the microphone, press start, go away for 10 minutes and save the results. Some users are very rigorous and keep re-aiming the microphone and re-running setup until their center speaker reports that it is located at 0 degrees. (I am not convinced that missing by a degree or two is audible.)

Sometimes, however, one or more of the speakers is hard to locate in 3D space and then it can become a trying "trial and error" action to capture accurate data.

Of the couple hundred Trinnov calibrations I ran while I was at Sherwood, only a handful fell into the latter category.

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I estimate I have run about 100 Trinnov calculations. MOST are what would be expected, but some were just flat out WONKY! Center channel 68 degrees subwoofer 90 degrees, and so on. Had my furnace kick on once while doing it and that whacked it out as well. I fall into the obsessive compulsive category so kept going until I had that center at 0 degrees and then had two other ones equally close. Very happy with the sound quality. MOst of the time my speakers were picked up after three bursts but once it could not find my sub even after 10 bursts, so back to the drawing board. And yes, I also loaded the 6db file twice as well...
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The few of us who have heard Trinnov compared to XT32 and other room correction software agree... Trinnov is just awesome for movies. I really hope they license and implement it in more cost effective receivers.
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The few of us who have heard Trinnov compared to XT32 and other room correction software agree... Trinnov is just awesome for movies. I really hope they license and implement it in more cost effective receivers.
+1 to everything above...
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The few of us who have heard Trinnov compared to XT32 and other room correction software agree... Trinnov is just awesome for movies. I really hope they license and implement it in more cost effective receivers.
But i think that is more so because of the speaker placement correction that Audessey does not have.

Implementation is not easy...it needs more horsepower than Audessey, but I'm with you, I hope it becomes more widespread.
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The few of us who have heard Trinnov compared to XT32 and other room correction software agree... Trinnov is just awesome for movies. I really hope they license and implement it in more cost effective receivers.
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But i think that is more so because of the speaker placement correction that Audessey does not have.

Implementation is not easy...it needs more horsepower than Audessey, but I'm with you, I hope it becomes more widespread.
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