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Here's my setup in detail;

* Speakers (No subwoofer)
- Front: Klipsch RF82 ; 33Hz-23kHz +/-3dB
- Center: Klipsch RC35 ; 56Hz-20kHz (+-)3dB
- Surrond: Klipsch RB35 ; 45Hz-20kHz (+-)3dB

* Setup (R972)
- System Setup > Subwoofer Mode @ "Normal"
- Speaker/Listening Setup > Speaker Config. > Subwoofer @ "No"
- Speaker/Listening Setup > X-over Frequency > Front/Center/Surround @ 'Full'
- Trinnov setting ; Natural / 3D Remap
Your speakers, assuming they're dialed in +/-3dB are not going have much low bass and that's not a knock on your speakers. That's just the penalty of not having a proper subwoofer that's capable of <20Hz playback.

As to your subwoofer, not knowing the Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 menu protocol, based on the Denon menu for the AVR4520CI, the LFE channel needs to be turned off. "As to Subwoofer @ "No,"" my understanding, that just tells the EQ program, not to look for a subwoofer but the LFE channel is still turned on.

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You're speakers, assuming they're dialed in +/-3dB are not going have much low bass and that's not a knock on your speakers. That's just the penalty of not having a proper subwoofer that's capable of <20Hz playback.

As to your subwoofer, not knowing the Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 menu protocol, based on the Denon menu for the AVR4520CI, the LFE channel needs to be turned off. "As to Subwoofer @ "No,"" my understanding, that just tells the EQ program, not to look for a subwoofer but the LFE channel is still turned on.
For now, I'm not thinking having a subwoofer because I'm satisfied with my current bass that is produced through the Klipsch RF82.

Back to my original question, I'm still wondering why I cannot hear LFE channel with Trinnov ON while I can hear the very same channel re-routed to the fronts with Trinnov OFF.

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Back to my original question, I'm still wondering why I cannot hear LFE channel with Trinnov ON while I can hear the very same channel re-routed to the fronts with Trinnov OFF.
Maybe you missed this comment that I posted: "...the LFE channel needs to be turned off."

By turning the LFE channel off, with all speakers set to large, the LFE channel material is redirected to the speakers and the speakers will reproduce as much as they're capable of reproducing.
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Maybe you missed this comment that I posted: "...the LFE channel needs to be turned off."

By turning the LFE channel off, with all speakers set to large, the LFE channel material is redirected to the speakers and the speakers will reproduce as much as they're capable of reproducing.
You're right. I didn't know you were mentioning other option than just setting the subwoofer to "NO".
Now, I'm trying to find a menu for turning off the LFE channel.... but there's no such a menu that I can turn off. Or, at least I'm looking at wrong menu?
Do you know where is that menu?

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Do you know where is that menu?
With certainty, only in our AVR's menu.

I checked our Denon menu and I was in error. We don't have an off switch in the speaker/manual heading. It has either LFE or LFE+Mains.

Try LFE+Mains and see if that will get the bass to your mains.
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With certainty, only in our AVR's menu.

I checked our Denon menu and I was in error. We don't have an off switch in the speaker/manual heading. It has either LFE or LFE+Mains.

Try LFE+Mains and see if that will get the bass to your mains.
Sorry, I couldn't find 'LFE+Mains' form the R972 menu.
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Re: Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 Official Thread

I have an r972,
In the menus under System setup, there is a setting called Subwoofer mode. It let's you choose Normal or SW Plus+
When you ran the Trinnov did you have a subwoofer connected?

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Onkyo 805, Yamaha YDP2006EQ, Samson Servo 600 amp
3 EV Sentry 500 monitors across the front, 4 Mission 762i's Surrounds, SVS PB13U sub, Panasonic BDT220, Harmony 1100, Nintendo WiiU
Panasonic PT-AE8000 on a 120" 2,35:1 fixed screen

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Sherwood/Newcastle R972, Mission 765's, SVS SBS02's, A/D/S MS3u sub, Yamaha YDG2030EQ
Yamaha KX-393 Tape deck, CDC 805 CD changer, Panasonic BD60, Sony turntable PS-T20
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That's pretty much the last I can offer as I don't have a manual to look at to see if the R-972 has an equivalent setting.

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I have an r972,
In the menus under System setup, there is a setting called Subwoofer mode. It let's you choose Normal or SW Plus+
When you ran the Trinnov did you have a subwoofer connected?
No, I never had a subwoofer. So, the Trinnov auto setup was done using 5.0 speakers.
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Re: Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 Official Thread

And you placed the trinnov mic on a stand at ear level in the listening position?

Home theater:
Onkyo 805, Yamaha YDP2006EQ, Samson Servo 600 amp
3 EV Sentry 500 monitors across the front, 4 Mission 762i's Surrounds, SVS PB13U sub, Panasonic BDT220, Harmony 1100, Nintendo WiiU
Panasonic PT-AE8000 on a 120" 2,35:1 fixed screen

Living room system:
Sherwood/Newcastle R972, Mission 765's, SVS SBS02's, A/D/S MS3u sub, Yamaha YDG2030EQ
Yamaha KX-393 Tape deck, CDC 805 CD changer, Panasonic BD60, Sony turntable PS-T20
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