Buying a sound surround sound system.

**tonyvdb** · **10-26-09, 03:57 PM**

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TheBuzzer wrote:

How many joules should I be suppressing for a home theather?

I would not go less than 2200

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I was thinking of buying this:
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812120413

Personally I think the trip lite products are better quality.

If you can I do highly recommend running at least one dedicated circuit to the spot where your going to plug all this into. (just gives you a bit more peace of mind)

**TheBuzzer** · **10-26-09, 05:04 PM**

I have no idea how the circuity of the house is. I guess I can get a trip light.

is this one good?
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812120302

costco and newegg sell this one.

**Jungle Jack** · **10-26-09, 05:12 PM**

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TheBuzzer wrote:

I ended up ordering the TX-SR876 that people recommended. I still need to buy the wires from monoprice. I not even sure if svs process my order yet. Their website doesn't even have a order tracking or order history.

Now stuff I should buy:

A home theater surge protector? Maybe like protect at least 6000 joules?
the rca cable for sub, prob like 6 feet.
the speaker cables.
I think that is all I would need for the setup.

Buzzer,
Excellent choice on the Receiver, you are going to love it. Have you tried calling SVS Customer Service about your order? While I have never ordered from them, I have only heard great things about their CS.

Surge protector is truly a proactive step. Especially if living somewhere with lots of lightning or brownouts. I personally like pre terminated Speaker Cables. Costs a little more, but you never have to worry about the connectors coming loose. I use Kimber Kables with WBT terminations for my Speaker Cables. Their locking bananas, while expensive, are an amazing connection making it impossible for accidental shorts.
Cheers,
JJ

**tonyvdb** · **10-26-09, 05:13 PM**

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TheBuzzer wrote:

is this one good?
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812120302

costco and newegg sell this one.

Its ok but it has no noise filters for power as the more expensive triplites do. This one is the one I have (I have 3 of them) you can get them for less look at this one on ebay as they have them for half that price..

**TheBuzzer** · **10-26-09, 09:02 PM**

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tonyvdb wrote:

Its ok but it has no noise filters for power as the more expensive triplites do. This one is the one I have (I have 3 of them) you can get them for less look at this one on ebay as they have them for half that price..

how about this one?
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842111040

this one seems to have noise filter a bit expensive but seems to be the best for the value.

**tonyvdb** · **10-26-09, 09:09 PM**

Yes, that a good one and has the cable and phone protection as well.

**TheBuzzer** · **10-26-09, 09:25 PM**

well i don't care much about phone, really the thing i guess i was looking at was the noise filter and the amount of joules it has while having a good amount of plugs.

**tonyvdb** · **10-26-09, 10:38 PM**

Its equivalent to the one sold by Monster that they charge you $200 or more for.

**panaman** · **10-27-09, 01:21 PM**

i personally use the APC 750 VA
Its $100 bucks
http://linkee.com/UcjWuD
The nice thing about this unit is when the power goes off, your stuff stays on!

**tonyvdb** · **10-27-09, 02:38 PM**

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panaman wrote:

i personally use the APC 750 VA
Its $100 bucks
http://linkee.com/UcjWuD
The nice thing about this unit is when the power goes off, your stuff stays on!

The problem with it is that it provides little to no filtering to the power as its simply a switching circuit. However I do recommend a UPS on a projector so if the power gos out you have time to shut it down properly.

**panaman** · **10-27-09, 04:00 PM**

I actually think its better to use a UPS plugged into a GFCI than a surge surpressor.
I think the audio/video industry created a ton of hype with using surge surpressors.

Personally if I get a spike in power I would rather have my power turn off and my system run on battery.

**tonyvdb** · **10-27-09, 04:02 PM**

A GFCI only protects the user it will not stop a spike of power coming in form the outside.

**eugovector** · **10-27-09, 04:26 PM**

The linked APC does offer 365j of surge protection:http://www.apc.com/products/resource...50G&tab=models

**panaman** · **10-27-09, 04:39 PM**

A class A GFCI will trip if it sences only 5ma of current change from whats coming in than what is going out... Yes they are made to protect humans but they will trip from a surge of electricity.
I do see your point though..
I guess if you want the ultimate protection, I would plug your surge surpressor into a GFCI, Plug your UPS into your surge surpressor, and plug all your equipment into your ups.

If you want the super duper ultimate protection.... just unplug your stuff during a lightning storm...
a bolt of lightning can generate 10 billion joules of power

**TheBuzzer** · **10-29-09, 02:32 AM**

I just got the receiver, it is huge!!! How am i suppose to fit this. great are all receivers this huge now ???

**Jungle Jack** · **10-29-09, 11:15 AM**

Hello,
Most quality receivers are indeed this big. Large power supplies and heat sinks take up a great deal of real estate. Most of the receivers you see at Best Buy are much smaller, weigh half as much and though are rated at similar power ratings, actually output often less than 1/2 the power. In addition these lower caliber receivers are more prone to thermal shutdown due to lack of heat sink size, lack of capacitance, etc, when driven to higher levels.

While larger than perhaps what you are used to, you really have an excellent centerpiece to a high quality system that will provide you years of listening pleasure.
Cheers,
JJ

**tonyvdb** · **10-29-09, 12:58 PM**

He He, yup, its a monster alright! You going to be pleasantly surprised how good it sounds. As Jack said the power supply is really the heart of the receiver and if its large your going to get allot more bang for your buck and far less distortion than other receivers in its price range.

**TheBuzzer** · **10-29-09, 04:40 PM**

Still way bigger than I thought it would have been. Now i might have to buy a new tv stand to put that monster on.

**Jungle Jack** · **10-29-09, 09:09 PM**

Hello,
Buying a stand would probably be a good call. Just make sure to allow a couple inches above the receiver as Onkyo's run warm. It is completely normal and they even make mention of it running hot on the top of the unit. Again, you really have gotten yourself an awesome receiver that will bring you years of joy.
Cheers,
JJ

**TheBuzzer** · **10-29-09, 09:31 PM**

i already have a tv stand but the cab size for it are not that big. based on the reciever size either i made the 3 section closer together to give more room for the bottom but than i would run into the problem of the center speaker too. where the other devices wont even be on the stand anymore

**tonyvdb** · **10-29-09, 10:16 PM**

Personally I would not even put the Onkyo "in" a stand I would place it on top of a shelf with nothing over the top of it so it can breath properly. Nothing worse than heat to shorten the lifespan of a receiver or amp.

**TheBuzzer** · **10-29-09, 10:21 PM**

well i have a tv stand that looks similar to this

and my tv is on the top. not like mounted on the wall

**Jungle Jack** · **10-29-09, 10:40 PM**

Hello,
For what it's worth, for about a year I used a TX-SR875 strictly as a prepro (amplifiers not used) placed in a BDI Deploy Max rack that was so tight that I had to remove the feet to fit the thing in the available space. While I grant you the amplifiers were not used, they were still active as Onkyo does not allow you to turn off the amplifiers as some Denon's used to allow you to.

I never had so much as a hiccup when placed in such a tight configuration. Intellectually, I knew it was wrong to have so little clearance so I dragged out an old Bell O'ggetti TV stand and placed it on top where the television would reside. The Bell O' rack is to the side of my other gear.

If at all possible, placing on top of whatever stand you have is absolutely the way to go. All the same, even with my Onkyo placed in an open air configuration, it still runs hot. Especially in the back right where the HDMI board and Reon chip reside. Bottom line is these Onkyo's run hot. But, they next to never shut off due to heat buildup. This is something I have followed on many forums and has been exceptionally consistent in this regard.
Cheers,
JJ

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