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post #1 of 16 Old 08-25-10, 02:07 PM Thread Starter
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Putting together my first real system

Hello,

I am finally getting around to putting together my first home theater surround sound system and with the number of choices out there, I wanted to run it by you guys and make sure it looks alright. I am planning on a 5.1 for now, but want an AVR that is 7.1 capable so I can upgrade after we move and I get a more dedicated room.

I have a fairly open living room where this will go with a carpeted floor. It will be used mostly for TV and movies, probably something like 80%, with about 10% for music and 10% video gaming. I would like to spend around $1000. I do have a couple of older speakers that I can use as surrounds for the time being until I can upgrade them later. That should let me focus the $1000 on the AVR, the fronts, center, and sub. I will be connecting a BlueRay player, HD-DVD player (whoops, guessed wrong there), an xbox360 slim with HDMI, and a TiVo series 3.

The AVR I am looking at is the Onkyo HT-RC260. This is currently $350 on Amazon. It seems like the popular suggestion around here is for the 607 or 707. Do those have something that the RC260 doesn't?

For the fronts, I was thinking a pair of Polk Audio Monitor 70 floor standing speakers at $200 per. And a Polk CS10 center for $120. I would really prefer a horizontal center that I can put on the stand directly beneath my TV.

That leaves me about $200 for a sub which I don't have picked out or anything.

Suggestions? I am on the right track at least?
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Re: Putting together my first real system

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The RC260 is HDMI1.4 ready meaning that it will pass through the new 3D signals over HDMI so if that is a must have for you then the rc160 is a good choice.
Ove all you on the right track as far as your list is concerned however I think $200 on a sub is not going to be enough.

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Onkyo 805, Yamaha YDP2006EQ, Samson Servo 600 amp
3 EV Sentry 500 monitors across the front, 4 Mission 762i's Surrounds, SVS PB13U sub, Panasonic BDT220, Harmony 1100, Nintendo WiiU
Panasonic PT-AE8000 on a 120" 2,35:1 fixed screen

Living room system:
Sherwood/Newcastle R972, Mission 765's, SVS SBS02's, A/D/S MS3u sub, Yamaha YDG2030EQ
Yamaha KX-393 Tape deck, CDC 805 CD changer, Panasonic BD60, Sony turntable PS-T20
Panasonic TC-P50ST60, HD-PVR & WDTV Live, Harmony 900

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Re: Putting together my first real system

Hello,
Welcome to HTS. If possible, I would go listen to the Polk's and make sure that you like their sound.
If your budget can go up a bit, PSB's wonderful Image T45 (749 MSRP) are available for around 479 from DMC-Electronics and Saturday Audio. The matching C60 Center Channel is 299 (499 MSRP).

I really think PSB Founder and Designer Paul Barton is a Genius and his Speakers are getting close to unanimous praise from all Professional Reviewers.
Here is a Review of the T-45:http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/psb_image_t45.htm
Another Review of the CC and same Series:http://www.hometheatermag.com/floorloudspeakers/87/
Here is a link for the Speakers:https://dmc-electronics.com/Default.htm (halfway down the page)

For a Subwoofer, if needing to stay under 200 Dollars, I do not think you can do much better than the Dayton Sub 120. Here is a link:http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-SUB-120.../dp/B000C9NV78
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Re: Putting together my first real system

Thanks for the responses guys.

Tony, honestly I don't really need the 3D support. I liked that it does upconversion to 1080p, and 100W per channel, and has a second zone. I suppose the only real non-negotiable thing that I need from the AVR though is at least 5 HDMI in. And my wife's only concern is that she be able to plug her precious iPod into it.

Jack, is the suggestion to listen to the Polk speakers first a general suggestion or is there something specifically about the Polks that I might not like?

Given all of that, if I am looking at:

Onkyo HT-RC260 $350
2 Polk Audio Montor 70s $400
Polk CS10 Center $120
Dayton Sub-120 $195 shipped
and a pair of existing speakers for surrounds

That puts me at a little over $1000. If I could put another $300-500 more into the system, what would be the places to upgrade to get the most bang for the buck.
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That puts me at a little over $1000. If I could put another $300-500 more into the system, what would be the places to upgrade to get the most bang for the buck.
The sub would be my first choice, I would go with one of these. The SVS PB12 NSD is virtually impossible to beat for the price.
The reason I suggest a sub is that most decent speakers will reproduce frequencies between 80-20,000Hz well enough to hold there own. A sub however in order to play down low needs to be built very well, have a decent driver and box along with a good amp. Subs below $400 just cant do that without sacrificing db's and depth. If you want a sub that will reach down to below 20Hz with high enough volume to be meaningful where movies really shine you have to spend more.

Home theater:
Onkyo 805, Yamaha YDP2006EQ, Samson Servo 600 amp
3 EV Sentry 500 monitors across the front, 4 Mission 762i's Surrounds, SVS PB13U sub, Panasonic BDT220, Harmony 1100, Nintendo WiiU
Panasonic PT-AE8000 on a 120" 2,35:1 fixed screen

Living room system:
Sherwood/Newcastle R972, Mission 765's, SVS SBS02's, A/D/S MS3u sub, Yamaha YDG2030EQ
Yamaha KX-393 Tape deck, CDC 805 CD changer, Panasonic BD60, Sony turntable PS-T20
Panasonic TC-P50ST60, HD-PVR & WDTV Live, Harmony 900

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Re: Putting together my first real system

Hello Noble.

Honestly with that kind of budget I would hunt the local used market. Here in Edmonton we have the Bargain Finder. At the moment in there you can get a Polk 5.1 speaker set in the box for $200 or a Klipsch/Difinitive set up for $500.

Make sure they can be set up and listen too before you buy.

As for AVRs I like the Yamaha's for entry level, LOTs of feature but mostly because of the YPAO speaker set up system with a mic. RX-V467 for 5.1 or RX-V567 if you looking at 7.1 later on.
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YAPO is nice and works well. Yamaha also makes good receivers and nothing really different than any others available in that price range. For me personally weight is always the first thing I look at if its a light receiver then that means a small power supply and that equates to poor power output in the amps all channels driven. Ratings are far to wishy washy and a 20lb receiver rated at 90watts per channel is never going to do that when movies call for it to do so. Usually drops down to less than 60% of its rated power and gives you distortion and poor sound quality.

Home theater:
Onkyo 805, Yamaha YDP2006EQ, Samson Servo 600 amp
3 EV Sentry 500 monitors across the front, 4 Mission 762i's Surrounds, SVS PB13U sub, Panasonic BDT220, Harmony 1100, Nintendo WiiU
Panasonic PT-AE8000 on a 120" 2,35:1 fixed screen

Living room system:
Sherwood/Newcastle R972, Mission 765's, SVS SBS02's, A/D/S MS3u sub, Yamaha YDG2030EQ
Yamaha KX-393 Tape deck, CDC 805 CD changer, Panasonic BD60, Sony turntable PS-T20
Panasonic TC-P50ST60, HD-PVR & WDTV Live, Harmony 900

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At this level I personally don't use weight as a comparison tool. When we get into units with Torodial Transformers....well that a different ball of wax.
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Well, I am definitely not interested in the used market. That is one thing that I didn't like about the T-45s that Jack linked to. To get the 479 price, you are getting the ding and dent versions and I would rather not right now.

So, after looking around some more, I was wondering what people's opinions were on this set of hardware.

Onyko TX-SR608 $400

Klipsch F-2 for the fronts $200/per
Klipsch C-2 for the center $150
Klipsch Synergy Sub-12 $350

and eventually picking up a pair or four of the S-2s for the surrounds.

Anything particularly bad about this setup? Would the SVS sub for an additional $250 really make that big of a difference?
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Never been a fan of the low end Klipsch. Additionally, those models are discontinued, so they may not be a "new" as you think.

In the end as long as you and your ears are happy all is well. My first HT was from Cambridge Soundworks, years ago with the dual subs. I was very proud of them a the time..
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