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| Neptune Audio Introducing the Neptune Audio neptuneEQDiscuss Introducing the Neptune Audio neptuneEQ in the Equalization | Calibration forum; Introducing the Neptune Audio neptuneEQ The neptune EQ ™ is the result of more than 10 years of product development. It is a sophisticated product, ... |
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| Introducing the Neptune Audio neptuneEQ ![]() The neptuneEQ™ is the result of more than 10 years of product development. It is a sophisticated product, made possible only by the most recent DSP technology. The neptuneEQ™ corrects for acoustical problems created by the room, furniture and speakers in a 7.1 channel or less home theater system, and has both RCA and XLR connectors. The neptuneEQ™ performs Equalization by the use of graphic EQ techniques. It utilizes thirty 1/3 octave bands for each of the 7 full range channels (just like a professional movie theater), and twenty bands for the subwoofer channel; all sampled at 96 kHz, 24 bits. We use four top of the line stereo codecs (the part that converts the audio to digital and back) from Cirrus logic®, instead of a single, less expensive surround sound codec. The neptuneEQ™ is expressly designed for discerning high end home theater use, where no compromises are made in the design and application. Features:
In some detail, measuring the room requires the use of test signals. In general there are three basic test signals that can be used. These are: sine wave, impulse, or noise ![]() Sine wave: A sine wave measurement is simply a sequence of pure tones which are stepped over the frequency response of the system (typically 20 Hz to 20 kHz) at a constant strength. A microphone measures the signal at the sitting position and the processor determines the signal strength of each band. This is a very simple approach but has the problem of reflections causing cancellations and reinforcements at the specific frequencies which greatly reduce the accuracy of the measurements. Further, the time it takes to output and then listen to each frequency is prohibitive. ![]() Impulse: The impulse (or ping) method is done by generating a pulse with a very fast rise time and a very short duration. The shape of this pulse is altered by the audio system and room acoustics. It is measured and recorded, and then it is analyzed to determine the characteristics of the audio system. This is theoretically straightforward but has the practical difficulty that when using signals low enough not to cause audio system distortion, obtaining enough energy over the entire frequency range to get accurate measurements is difficult. ![]() Noise: Of the three signals, noise is the closest in character to movie sound. Pseudo random noise (or p/n)is generated digitally and is seeded to cause it to be exactly the same every time; therefore it is a knownsource, unlike true random noise. It allows the best measurement because noise can provide a large enough signal for quality measurements without distorting the audio system and it is much less susceptible to incidental reflections than a sine wave, since there are no discrete tones. This is the signal we have chosen to implement in the neptuneEQ™. Automatic EQ The neptuneEQ™ comes standard with a calibrated microphone and stand. The mic is plugged into the front panel and is placed in the first listening position. The processor in the neptuneEQ™ generates the test signals, sends them through all of the channels in turn, automatically adjusts the proper level for the audio system and makes the first round of measurements. Then the mic is then moved and the measurements are repeated four more times for a total of five listening positions. The EQ’s processor then automatically determines the necessary corrections (EQ, balance, delay and crossover) for each channel, and applies them. No external computer is needed. This entire process takes approximately 4 minutes. The user can easily do this job and needs no special training or equipment, thus avoiding an expensive service call. The corrections are held in the EQ’s memory permanently until a remeasurement is needed such as a change in furniture, decor or audio component. Finally, your system sounds right! The processor in the neptuneEQ™ automatically calculates the corrections needed to remove the room's effects. It does so by determining how to condition the signals so that they arrive at the listening position sounding like the moviemaker intended. No additional input is needed to make these corrections. In addition to this, there are user preference presets and adjustments to tailor the sound to your preferences; thus giving you the ultimate control of your sound system. Specifications Audio Inputs:
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| Re: Introducing the Neptune Audio neptuneEQ I was reading in one of the other forums about a device that SVS is coming out with that will do an analysis and correction for subwoofers. One of their main points is that it will also correct the frequency response in the time domain. I never thought I needed anything corrected in the time domain, but now that they brought it to my attention, maybe I do. Does the Neptune perform corrections in the time domain? I don't think this is the same as speaker distances or polarity. | ||||
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| Re: Introducing the Neptune Audio neptuneEQ Hi Jim, thanks for your inquiry! The short answer is yes, we are doing the correction in the time domain. Whether that means much to you is uncertain. You are right, it doesn't refer to loudspeaker distance or phase, but rather how the signal is processed internally. Time alignment™ which is a trademarked term (not by us, but by Ed Long) is what would be corrected for with speaker distance compensation. Like everything in electronics (or the world for that matter), everything has advantages and disadvantages. Doing correction in the time domain is more or less just different than doing it in the frequency domain. It has the advantage of speed and accuracy at the expense of processing power, and thus, cost (at least in our implementation). Since we made this product for the high end market, we decided that tradeoff was worth it. Time will tell if that's so. ![]() What we do as well as the EQ (amongst other things) is the above mentioned time alignment™. That is not trivial, and it cannot be properly done by a simple measurement with a tape measure. Due to the nature of subwoofers (the large voice coils, the long excursion requirements, the internal equalization etc), they have HUGE amounts of group delay. Often the internal delay in a subwoofer is greater than the delay caused by it's distance. Our neptuneEQ™ measures the actual delay, and therefore provides excellent time alignment™. I have been totally unaware of SVS's correction device. I looked on their website and couldn't find anything about it. If you can remember where you saw this in the forum (I looked there too, with no success), I'd love to read more. Ken | ||||
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| Re: Introducing the Neptune Audio neptuneEQ I have read up on the SVS device: http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...tml#post150501 What makes your eq worth so much more money? | ||||
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| Re: Introducing the Neptune Audio neptuneEQ Hello Bill, thank you for your interest. Kal pretty much hit it on the head (thanks Kal). Not having tried the SVS unit, but only read about it, I have no doubt it's a very nice capable unit. It is, however, subwoofer only. All I can do is extol the benefits of our product: The neptuneEQ was designed as a high end accessory from the ground up. (please keep in mind that I'm not saying the SVS unit wasn't). Since it is for multiple channels (7.1) AND full range, the components used are many and pricey. In order to convert all those channels with the quality needed, multiple top quality audiophile grade stereo codecs were employed (the best we could find). Also, the amount of processing power needed to perform the functions of the neptuneEQ is staggering. Our 32 bit floating point processor is performing 400 MMACS (400 Million Multiply Accumulate Cycles per Second; think about that). It also has split power supplies (digital and analog) which share only the power cord, balanced XLR connections with gold contacts (and gold RCAs too), and includes a second separate processor to do the job of the laptop. Even the chassis which is made of 18ga steel and machined aluminum is very costly. We are aware that 4 grand is a lot of money. I would never refer to this product as "affordable", because that is a relative term, but it was created for those who can afford it and want the best sound money can buy. Ken | ||||
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