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Will the screen size of 10 inches make a difference?

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We're thinking now that the space in our HT room designated for the display can maybe squeeze a 60" HDTV depending on whether or not the sides can come out a bit and clear the cabinet doors to the left and right (the right side cabinet holds our AVR and BD player).

Unfortunately, our seating distance absolutely cannot change -- it must remain at 12 feet or so from the display to the main viewing area (basically my spot). :D The wife has been liking the looks of the Panasonic plasmas at 60 inches, while I think I'd prefer an LCD set (actually, what I would prefer, between you and I and the man on the moon, is any one of the 72, 75, 80 or 92-inch DLP Mitsubishis that are out now...but that's saved for a fantasy when I make more money or win some kind of lottery) if only because of the 120/240Hz refresh features that turn film into a video look (don't ask -- I know I am in the minority on this one...).

No matter what technology we end up going with, will we see a drastic viewing difference moving from our 50" Sony SXRD RPTV to a 60" screen? Keep in mind our viewing distance absolutely cannot be changed; will we see at least some dramatic differences going up 10 inches in size?
 
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Thank you very much, Leonard, for your opinion and input. :T

Do you believe things will begin to look a bit more "theatrical" in presentation -- that is, a bit more immersive -- with the 60 when viewing film on DVD/BD? I realize we're still not anywhere near correct, ideal seating distance from these sizes, but...

Also keep in mind that we do watch film in darkened conditions, with just a very dim night light built into our fancy torch light that sits to the left of the left main channel...
 
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A larger screen will always enhance the viewing experience. Go as big as you can, you won't regret it.
Thank you.

Of course I would never regret or second guess a larger screen in any circumstance; I just kind of wanted to know if there should be a significant presentation difference, visually, jumping from the 50 to a 60 inch...if we'd notice it at our seating distance of 12 feet.
 
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A 60" screen at 12' will fill the same field of vision as your 50" screen at 10'. Move your chair up 2 feet, temporarily, and see what you think.
Interesting analysis, 'vector, thanks.

I will do that experiment when I can.

But do you feel, just speaking plainly without the benefit of results from this test, the way others do here based on their replies that the 60 inch screen should make a discernable visual difference if you had to guess?
 
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We went from a 46 to a 55, so 9 inches and it definitely made a difference with no change in seating position. Actually, the tv went back some 18 inchs as we switched from a rear projection to a plasma.

eugovector said:
A 60" screen at 12' will fill the same field of vision as your 50" screen at 10'. Move your chair up 2 feet, temporarily, and see what you think.
That's an interesting way to test it out.
 
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We went from a 46 to a 55, so 9 inches and it definitely made a difference with no change in seating position. Actually, the tv went back some 18 inchs as we switched from a rear projection to a plasma.

That's an interesting way to test it out.
That's my current issue... I have a 65" CRT-based RPTV, and while I would like to upgrade to a flat panel (except for perhaps the new Sharp Elites, there are questions as to whether any flat panel would truly be an "upgrade"), that would move the set almost 2' farther back from the viewing position. I really need a fairly significant boost in size to have an upgrade actually "upgrade" my size, as well. Even those gorgeous 70" Sharp Elites would look smaller, under the circumstances! There's the new 80" Sharp, but it's not an Elite, and would be a step backwards in quality, as such. I guess I'll have to wait for an 80" Elite... and a winning lottery ticket! :(
 
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I have a 52" and sit 12 ft. away and think the picture is perfect:sn:. I'd love to jump up to 60 or 70 inches but i'll save that for my dedicated room when the time and money come.:T
Thanks Bambino!

At least you make me feel a bit better about my 50"/12 feet situation!

I hear you about the dedicated room for the 60 or 70 -- right now, we'd like to get a 60 into the current space, but as you said, when the money comes...

But does it ever? :sarcastic: :hissyfit: :foottap:
 
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Osage_Winter said:
Thanks Mojo; appreciate the input.

So you would feel by staying at the same distance for us -- which would be 12 feet -- the 10 inch jump to a 60" would be significant? Do you think film watching -- particularly scope presentations at 2.35:1 and 2.40:1 with heavy letterboxing -- would seem more immersive at 12 feet with a 60 incher?

How far are you from your plasma now? Do you have any pics of your room and setup?
I guess the key here is how much is significant varies by person to person. Do I prefer the larger screen? Oh yes! Can I tell it's a bigger more immersive screen? Yes. So can my wife. Do I feel I can go larger, yes. My wife not so much, but that's because she sits closer to the screen than I do due to our living room layout. She sits 2 feet closer than I do and if we switch seats, it's even more immersive. You should definitely try the sitting 2 feet closer trick mentioned above.

Love watching movies. Prefer no letterboxing as I want to see/use as much as my tv as possible. :)

I'm 14 feet away, and since it's a living room not a dedicated space, that's not going to change. So, yes from here it's like watching tv, not being in the movie as I can see my L R speakers; c'est la vie!


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I guess the key here is how much is significant varies by person to person. Do I prefer the larger screen? Oh yes! Can I tell it's a bigger more immersive screen? Yes. So can my wife. Do I feel I can go larger, yes. My wife not so much, but that's because she sits closer to the screen than I do due to our living room layout. She sits 2 feet closer than I do and if we switch seats, it's even more immersive. You should definitely try the sitting 2 feet closer trick mentioned above.
How big is your set again?

Love watching movies. Prefer no letterboxing as I want to see/use as much as my tv as possible. :)
Oh, I totally get that -- I would love every film to fill my whole screen too. The thing is, ultra wide scope transfers at 2.35:1 and 2.40:1 require the letterboxing in order for the film to be viewed correctly on a 16:9 display (1.85:1 and 1.78:1 I believe can fill a widescreen display with no letterboxing due to some sets' overscan and other elements at play like a close-to-16:9 format; films with transfers of this kind fill my SXRD's display with no letterboxing due to overscan). That's the way the filmmaker wants you to see the film -- the letterboxing allows you to view all the information from left to right in the frame. When you stretch a widescreen transfer like this to fill a screen without letterboxing, you sacrifice not only quality of the image but what the director wants you to see -- again, though, here's the catch: DVD video is "stretchable" to fill a screen when there's letterboxing present in the transfer, but Blu-ray video is not, from everything I have gathered...

For example -- the Star Trek original episodes on Blu are in their original 4:3 format (full screen) and when I watch them on my Oppo Blu-ray player feeding my SXRD display, I get "pillarboxing" to the sides of the image, so the episodes are shown in an appropriate 4:3 format. Pillarboxing is like letterboxing, only it fills the sides of a screen with black area, not the top and bottom -- but from what I can tell with my equipment, 1080p Blu-ray video is "locked" into a widescreen or fullscreen format, unable to be stretched or manipulated unless you make changes to the player's resolution output. In other words, when I try and stretch the Star Trek episodes to fill my 16:9 display with the 4:3 image, I cannot -- the same thing happens when I watch widescreen Blu-ray films shot in 2.40:1 or 2.35:1 formats -- I can't stretch the image to fill the screen without letterboxing...

I'm told that this is a limitation with regard to 1080p high definition material -- that these images cannot be manipulated or stretched. I'd love to fill my screen up every time something comes onscreen -- but then I start thinking "This isn't how the director wanted me to see this frame or scene..." and that perhaps I'm sacrificing picture quality by blowing up the image...:unbelievable::unbelievable::dumbcrazy:

I'm 14 feet away, and since it's a living room not a dedicated space, that's not going to change. So, yes from here it's like watching tv, not being in the movie as I can see my L R speakers; c'est la vie!


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Thank you for sharing the pic with me -- indeed, we have the same situation...it feels like a living room and not a dedicated space, and thus it's simply like watching TV, not cinema...

I know exactly what you mean. :rolleyesno:
 
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Osage_Winter, my screen is a 55 inch plasma. In the end, if the movie is good, you will be pulled in and forget about everything else and just enjoy the movie; if it's not then it doesn't matter how large the screen is.

I know what letterboxing and pillarboxing are, and I know 1:85 and those formats are the original scope of the movie, but the important content is always on the middle and would prefer to fill my 16:9 screen then see a movie so thin that it makes no sense watching it on tv.

For the Elite name, Sharp bought the rights to the name, but not the Kuro tech; those went to Panasonic who bought the rights to the Kuro tech.
 
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Osage_Winter, my screen is a 55 inch plasma. In the end, if the movie is good, you will be pulled in and forget about everything else and just enjoy the movie; if it's not then it doesn't matter how large the screen is.
You're absolutely right; something to definitely consider and chew on. :T

I know what letterboxing and pillarboxing are, and I know 1:85 and those formats are the original scope of the movie, but the important content is always on the middle and would prefer to fill my 16:9 screen then see a movie so thin that it makes no sense watching it on tv.
I understand what you're saying about knowing about the 1.85/1.78 formats filling a 16:9 frame -- I was merely pointing out that the letterboxing on the 2.40/2.35 transfers are necessary in order to view the film the way the makers/director intended us to. I don't like the letterboxing either -- but to call the experience a "thin" presentation is a bit misleading IMO...it's not that the film looks "thin," but it's that with proper anamorphic enhancement (which most DVDs contain and all Blu-rays are encoded with) these black areas aren't so annoying as to take you out of the story. If anything, I think we can apply your theory above about the size of the screen and getting caught up in the film moreso to the letterboxing bars -- I find that when I'm watching the 2.35/2.40 films, and if I am into the story, the letterboxing doesn't bother me nearly as much as it did when I first entered the hobby and was watching DVDs on a 4:3 TV; the letterboxing on that set was absolutely horrendous...:sarcastic:

That said -- I would prefer all material to fill my screen, as you say; I have found that Blu-ray transfers do not allow any kind of stretching to be done within the 1080p encode for some reason, but I actually haven't checked that out on my current Oppo BD player (my previous Panasonic DMP-BD10A player did not allow zooming of 1080p material).

For the Elite name, Sharp bought the rights to the name, but not the Kuro tech; those went to Panasonic who bought the rights to the Kuro tech.
Interesting; Kalani was explaining this to me earlier in the thread...
 
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Well, folks, the wife actually thought after we went to a Best Buy yesterday to look at TVs that we would have been better off looking at 70 inch screens -- that's right -- as in the store, the 60 inch looked tiny on their wall of displays and she felt it would make no more impact than the 50 we have now...

Of course, this was under heavy flourescent lighting and amongst dozens of other displays around the 60 -- one of which was the 70" Sharp right above it, which of course dwarfed the 60 we were looking at. Alas -- when we got home and took measurements, it was clear there was absolutely no way we were getting a 70 inch screen in our entertainment center, and it would take buying a new wall unit which would push the ends out way too much on this wall to even fit our Polk RTi12 front channel towers on either side, plus our sub. So even if we sprung for a new wall unit, or tried to modify the one we have now, a 70 inch screen just isn't going to work in this room...

And so we're back to looking at 60's -- I need to know that a 60 is going to be dramatically different than the 50 we have now once we get it home and hooked up. We went to a local RC Willey store today and looked at more TVs and wall units, and the salesman told me two things that interested (and concerned) me -- first, he showed us a 60" set right next to a 52" set, and told me to notice how much bigger the 60 seemed. He went on to explain that with our 50, the 60 will seem even BIGGER than it does next to the 52 in the store. BUT -- again, there was a 70" display right below these, so the 52 and 60 both looked tiny...

Next, he told me we wouldn't find a wall unit to accomodate a 70-inch display -- at least not one with bridging and shelving on the top (to hold our center channel) or with such a "put together" look like with the one we have now. He showed us one wall unit they sold there which had no back panel in the area you'd put the TV, with a massive open space and awkward shelving pieces to the left and right; he said this was the only one THEY sold that would allow a 70 incher to fit. Both my wife and I didn't like this piece.

So, it seems we have to somehow make a 60 inch flat screen work in this wall unit we have now. If I can be assured that there will be an "impact" difference when watching film on a screen 10 inches bigger, I would feel more comfortable making the purchase...
 
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As was mentioned earlier in this thread, the only way to KNOW if the extra 10" will make enough difference is to view your current setup from 2' closer. Remember, no one else here is sitting in your living room, so our opinions on immersiveness don't count. My suggestion would be to place a stool immediately in front of your couch, and watch from the stool for 15 minutes, then move back to the couch for 15. Do this a few times. If you resent moving to the couch, buy a bigger TV. If you resent moving to the stool, keep your cash. If it's not immersive enough to compensate you for the discomfort of the stool then it's not immersive enough to compensate you for your hard earned money.
 
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UPDATE:

Okay. We had a handyman over tonight to take care of some stuff for us, and I discussed with him the possibility of modifying our wall unit so that it may fit a 70" display in it -- he actually said it was possible, because the pieces were modular, so it could open up to accomodate the larger screen. He would have to do some custom modification work because there would be some gaps between the area where the screen sits and the cabinets on either side, but it would still be much more cost effective compared to ditching this entire wall unit for a new one to hold a 70" screen, which is what we thought we would have to do if we wanted a screen 20 inches larger than the 50" we have now. As it stands, he did some measurements and found that we could JUST fit a 60" in our space, like I suspected, and could fit a 65" with very little modifications on his part...

So, the question now becomes -- will I definitely get a more immersive, more impactful experience going from our 50" SXRD to a 70" LCD? Is the 20-inch jump more worth it than the 10-inch would have been if I was going with the 60" set? Again -- we will be at a distance of 12 feet...should 1080p Blu-rays look impactful and nearly cinematic at this distance?
 
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Also Guys,

If we were to put our SXRD up for sale, what do y'all think we could get for it via Craigslist or another site? The TV is basically still brand new, with all stickers still on the speaker/bezel and I have all the manuals...the unit is kept in top notch shape, being cleaned and dusted regularly, and it wasn't too long ago that we changed the lamp in it (the first replacement since owning it).

What would one of these go for used? It is, of course, a 1080p panel...
 
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Not sure about horror stories beyond the lamp needing occasional replacement which you are already well aware of with your Sony which is, essentially, a DLP. But Mits dropped ALL other tech besides the DLP so what does that tell you? I'll take DLP over other tech any day of the week as it is closest to CRT without all the maintenance required such as convergence, but still maintains the smoothness and film-like qualities that EVERY TV maker strives for. :)
 
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Not sure about horror stories beyond the lamp needing occasional replacement which you are already well aware of with your Sony which is, essentially, a DLP.
Well, yes, of course the rear pros need the lamp replacement as a routine every few years, but that's not what these folks were describing as "horror stories" with regard to the Mitsubishis; they were more or less saying they don't last long and have rainbow/light output issues and other problems...and, of course, that the image isn't as "sharp" or "in your face" as a flat panel. That could all be opinion, though.

As for my Sony SXRD, yes, I am aware it needs a lamp replacement every so often; and while not marketed as a tried-and-true "DLP" set, the SXRD technology is indeed part of the microdisplay subcategory in the newer rear projection displays, using the "SXRAD" chip design, or what Sony likes to call "their version of LCoS."

But Mits dropped ALL other tech besides the DLP so what does that tell you? I'll take DLP over other tech any day of the week as it is closest to CRT without all the maintenance required such as convergence, but still maintains the smoothness and film-like qualities that EVERY TV maker strives for. :)
Well, from what I understand and have gathered from attending press conferences at CES and CEDIA, Mitsubishi got out of the flat panel (LCD/plasma) category not because these technologies "don't work" or they didn't believe in them; it was merely because they want to be regarded as the ultimate BIG, big screen company, offering buyers a real alternative to front projection if they want to stick with a TV screen, with the choices of massive screen sizes up to 92 inches. Many marketing heads at the company openly admitted in press conferences and events that Mitsubishi simply could not keep up with the amount of flat panel TVs companies like Samsung and Sony were selling, so they decided to go a different route and offer massive rear projection sets as the go-to brand for huge television displays.
 
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So, can anyone tell me if we will see a more dramatic difference going from our 50" rear pro to a 70" LCD or plasma (if there is a 70" plasma commercially available)?
 
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So, you're saying the 70 should seem impactful at our 12 foot seating distance? :scratch:
 
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This is honestly being over thought to the max. One mans trash is anothers treasure. You've been given the information you requested but seems you don't want to see the forest for the trees. No one can or will tell you what you will like or think, no matter how many times you persist in asking.
 
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Osage_Winter said:
Uh oh...

Now that's not really promising...:sweat: :ponder: :sad:
SA is right. You're over thinking this.

70" is a MAJOR upgrade from a 50", period. If you're looking for a more immersive experience, and can afford it, go for it.

The fact that I lust for an upgrade from a 65" set is indicative of my personal never-ending quest for biggerbetterfastermore. Not that watching movies on a 65" set from 8' away is somehow inherently inadequate. I'd be thrilled to upgrade to a 70" set if I could afford it... Even though coming from 65" it is much less of an upgrade than it will be for you, coming from a 50" set.
 
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SA is right. You're over thinking this.
Well, I didn't mean to wrinkle any feathers here, but to me, this is going to be a MASSIVE expense for us -- if we can even do it -- and I DON'T want to make a mistake in purchase, so to ME, this IS NOT in fact overthinking it.

70" is a MAJOR upgrade from a 50", period.
Okay; this is pretty much all I have been asking...

The fact that I lust for an upgrade from a 65" set is indicative of my personal never-ending quest for biggerbetterfastermore. Not that watching movies on a 65" set from 8' away is somehow inherently inadequate. I'd be thrilled to upgrade to a 70" set if I could afford it... Even though coming from 65" it is much less of an upgrade than it will be for you, coming from a 50" set.
In keeping with the tone of inherently discussing 65 inch displays, I was actually going to ask next (based on some information I gathered regarding the lack of ultimate choices in the 70" flat panel arena outside of Sharp) what the pros/cons would be if we were to consider a 65 instead of a 70...would there still be a nice impact upgrade from a 50 at 12 feet? It seems with 65 inch sets there would be some more choice of brands, and we'd actually be able to maybe choose a plasma OR LCD...while also avoiding having to do major reconstructing of our wall unit...
 
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See, now you're getting back into the realm of "we can't make your decision for you".

65" is still a substantial upgrade from 50". Not as much as 70", however. Only you can decide if that's "enough" for YOU. For me? I'd jump at the chance to upgrade from 50" to 65".

For me, upgrading from 65" to 70" is much less of a jump, and considering the price tag, it's been a necessarily slow and deliberate decision-making process. (ignoring the fact than my only viable options are out of reach at the moment anyway). If I was coming from a 50" set, though, there would be a LOT less internal debate and a lot more " the torpedoes".

You're certainly right that 65" offers more selection. The Panasonic plasmas are incredible, and my first choice this side of the Sharp Elite 70". Even the ST30 and GT30 models are great, if you can't swing the VT30. Consider mounting the tv on a serious mount with an armature and you can bring the screen 2-3' closer to the viewing position for those "event movies" where you really want more immersion than the latest episode of My Name Is Earl.

Not an easy decision, but in the end, you have to make the payments, and live with it. I suspect you'd be quite happy with either, so it's your call as to how wistfully you'll be looking at the 70" sets if you go with 65" (buyers remorse), and whether or not you can genuinely afford the larger 70" sets (a different sort of buyers remorse!)
 
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See, now you're getting back into the realm of "we can't make your decision for you".
I know you guys literally can't; I'm just asking for everyone's opinion and take on the matter...isn't that what hobbyist discussion forums are for? :T

65" is still a substantial upgrade from 50". Not as much as 70", however. Only you can decide if that's "enough" for YOU. For me? I'd jump at the chance to upgrade from 50" to 65".
Thank you for your honest input here; of course I know it wouldn't be, literally, as big a jump as to 70", but would that five inches really make all that much of a difference in your honest opinion? I only ask because you say here:

For me, upgrading from 65" to 70" is much less of a jump, and considering the price tag, it's been a necessarily slow and deliberate decision-making process. (ignoring the fact than my only viable options are out of reach at the moment anyway). If I was coming from a 50" set, though, there would be a LOT less internal debate and a lot more " the torpedoes".
:scratch:

You're certainly right that 65" offers more selection.
That's what I suspected...hence why I asked...

The Panasonic plasmas are incredible, and my first choice this side of the Sharp Elite 70". Even the ST30 and GT30 models are great, if you can't swing the VT30. Consider mounting the tv on a serious mount with an armature and you can bring the screen 2-3' closer to the viewing position for those "event movies" where you really want more immersion than the latest episode of My Name Is Earl.
Good to know -- thank you. Indeed, my wife has been eyeballing a 65" Panny plasma, so that would most likely be my first choice, although I do like the idea of playing with an LCD's interpolation/motion smoothing feature in order to get that "film looks like video" look that I happen to personally like on 1080p high definition material; the plasmas don't offer this due to the inherent technology differences...

With regard to your comments on mounting the screen on an arm, we're not going with that kind of install -- the screen will sit on its pedestal on top of a low boy cabinet that is part of our wall unit, so it looks "flush" installed in this entertainment center; but it will already be closer to us because I'm going to make sure the screen sits at the very edge of this cabinet, as close to us as possible, with the remainder of the wall unit around it. It's difficult to put into words, but essentially we won't have an issue in terms of the screen being too "far back"; we're not wall mounting it at all. I will take a pic if I do end up getting any kind of screen to show you what I mean and what our setup looks like...

Okay -- so there are indeed more choices in the 65" arena. Good to know. What else outside of a Panasonic plasma is available in this range? Which LCDs would you suggest, or other plasmas? Further, would a plasma give us good quality for DVD and Blu-ray playback? Will we see a difference coming from our rear projection set?

Not an easy decision
THAT is precisely why I am asking these questions of you folks...or, shall I say, my fellow enthusiasts...:T

I suspect you'd be quite happy with either, so it's your call as to how wistfully you'll be looking at the 70" sets if you go with 65" (buyers remorse), and whether or not you can genuinely afford the larger 70" sets (a different sort of buyers remorse!)
I understand; again, why I wanted some assistance with input. If you think, genuinely, that there won't be too much of a visual difference by going with a 65 over a 70 FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF COMPARING A 65 TO A 70, not a 50 to a 70, then I would feel more comfortable heading in this direction...
 
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this is going to be a MASSIVE expense for us -- if we can even do it -- and I DON'T want to make a mistake in purchase, so to ME, this IS NOT in fact overthinking it.



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That is why God gave us retyrn policies, for what we aren;t happy with and/or not what we thought/were led to believe. ;)

Also why God gave us CRAIGSLIST to be able to buy cheaply and get a great deal...
 
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Coming from CRT sets as I do, natural motion and good black levels are most important to me, along with size, of course. That means plasma, from my standpoint. The only LCD sets I've given serious thought to are the Sharp Elites, which are WAY out my price range at this time. I really don't care for LCD motion... It even bothers me a bit on the Elites.

Plasma and LCD both do great Blu ray (LCD within the limits of its tech, of course), DVD quality depends more on the quality of your scaler, since a fixed-pixel flat panel has to scale any low res content.

As to 65 vs 70, I can't say since I've never had a 70" set. One thing you might consider is taking SA's advice: try a 65" set and see how it works, and return and upgrade if you feel you want more. It'll be possible to enlarge the cabinet later if you need to go bigger, much harder to make it smaller after a 70" set.
 
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Coming from CRT sets as I do, natural motion and good black levels are most important to me, along with size, of course. That means plasma, from my standpoint. The only LCD sets I've given serious thought to are the Sharp Elites, which are WAY out my price range at this time. I really don't care for LCD motion... It even bothers me a bit on the Elites.
Thanks, again, for your input here.

Are even the Sharp 60" Elites out of your budget? The 70" Sharp I thought was semi-affordable at just above 2 grand, given its screen size; but I totally understand where you're coming from, because it looks like 2 grand is going to be our max budget cap...:crying:

When you say "LCD motion," are you referring to the ghosting and image smearing that sometimes happens on fast moving action?

Plasma and LCD both do great Blu ray (LCD within the limits of its tech, of course), DVD quality depends more on the quality of your scaler, since a fixed-pixel flat panel has to scale any low res content.
What do you mean by "LCD within the limits of its tech" with regard to Blu-ray? And thank you for giving me some insight here with regard to DVD and BD playback quality -- of course, I would continue using my Oppo Blu-ray player's Anchor Bay processor for DVD upconversion, as I do now. Does a great job with good DVD transfers. :T

As to 65 vs 70, I can't say since I've never had a 70" set. One thing you might consider is taking SA's advice: try a 65" set and see how it works, and return and upgrade if you feel you want more. It'll be possible to enlarge the cabinet later if you need to go bigger, much harder to make it smaller after a 70" set.
That is something I can consider, it's just that we didn't want to get stuck with getting a set placed in the wall unit only to have to pack it back up and replace it with something else...

Thank you for the ongoing discussion.
 
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Looking over 65" is a VERY small field of options, at this time. And since the best contender (Elite) is priced out of the marker... *shrug*
Well, there are always the 70 and 80" Sharp LCDs, plus the 85" Panasonic plasmas I was just told about, which retail for about 16 grand or something like that...as well as the 73-92" Mitsubishi DLP rear projection sets...unless you were just talking about plasma/LCD...
 
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Well, there are always the 70 and 80" Sharp LCDs, plus the 85" Panasonic plasmas I was just told about, which retail for about 16 grand or something like that...as well as the 73-92" Mitsubishi DLP rear projection sets...unless you were just talking about plasma/LCD...
Just talking about Plasma/LCD.

The 70" and 80" Sharp LCDs (non-Elite) are decidedly lower end models, and were never in the running for me.

The 85" Panny plasma would be great, but I'd rather have a new car. :gulp:
 
#58 ·
I say if your your budget allows it go for it. There is certainly going to be a huge differene between a 50" and a 70". Oh!, and if it fits.:T Just do it.
Otherwise if this seems to pop a question i'd say forget about a TV and get a projector and a 120" screen. You would be sure to tell a difference then, Good luck with all of your decision making.:T
 
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Thanks Bambino; unfortunately, no, we cannot do a 120" screen plus projector in this house or room we're in...
 
#64 ·
Hey again bxb...

Thanks for your feedback; I was looking at the 80" Sharp at Fry's on Labor Day when I went to pick up a couple of Infinity Primus towers for my two channel system (on sale for $99 a piece -- couldn't pass it up) and it was a monster; they had it on display on a fake wall with two rows of seating, but the salesman said it was a blowout model that didn't have the Quattron technology in it, so it was on a massive sale.

I just don't think we can swing that 80" screen in our living room...:hissyfit:

Do you think I will definitely notice a difference going from the 50" rear projection set I have now to the 70" Sharp? Do you think that will be "enough" to satisfy at 12 feet?
 
#65 ·
Hey Osage I definitely think you will notice the difference in size!! I've heard quite a few owners love their 80 inch. They say once they get it home and adjust it to their liking it's amazing!! I think you should go for it if you can and let us know what you think.
 
#67 ·
Thanks for your opinion. :T
 
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