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Behringer Power Amplifiers: EP2000 and EP4000

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Behringer Power Amplifiers: EP2000 and EP4000

Behringer EP2000 Professional 2,000-Watt Stereo Power Amplifier with ATR (Accelerated Transient Response) Technology.


The Behringer EP2000 delivers precise power with signal and clip LEDs to monitor performance. The Behringer EP2000 is protected with an impact-resistant, all-steel 2U rackmount chassis.

Features:

  • 2 x 1,000 Watts into 2 Ohms; 2 x 750 Watts into 4 Ohms; 2,000 Watts into 4 Ohms (bridge mode)
  • Precise Power, Signal and Clip LEDs to monitor performance
  • XLR and 1/4" TRS input connectors for compatibility with any source
  • Professional speaker connectors and “touch-proof” binding posts support most speaker wiring systems
  • Selectable low-frequency filters (30 Hz or 50 Hz) remove distracting infra-sound frequencies
  • Independent limiters per channel offer reliable protection against overload and distortion
  • High-current toroidal transformer for ultra-high transient response and absolute reliability
  • Ultra-reliable Toshiba/Fairchild power transistors
  • Independent DC and thermal overload protection on each channel automatically protects amplifier and speakers without shutting down the show
  • Back-to-front ventilation system including air filter for reliable operation
  • Built-like-a-tank, impact-resistant, all-steel 2U rackmount chassis
  • High-quality components and exceptionally rugged construction ensure long life
  • Conceived and designed by BEHRINGER Germany

Behringer EP4000 Professional 4,000-Watt Stereo Power Amplifier with ATR (Accelerated Transient Response) Technology


The Behringer EP4000 delivers precise power with signal and clip LEDs to monitor performance. The Behringer EP4000 is protected with an impact-resistant, all-steel 2U rackmount chassis.

Features:

  • 2 x 2,000 Watts into 2 Ohms; 2 x 1,400 Watts into 4 Ohms; 4,000 Watts into 4 Ohms (bridge mode)
  • Precise Power, Signal and Clip LEDs to monitor performance
  • XLR and 1/4" TRS input connectors for compatibility with any source
  • Professional speaker connectors and “touch-proof” binding posts support most speaker wiring systems
  • Selectable low-frequency filters (30 Hz or 50 Hz) remove distracting infra-sound frequencies
  • Independent limiters per channel offer reliable protection against overload and distortion
  • High-current toroidal transformer for ultra-high transient response and absolute reliability
  • Ultra-reliable Toshiba/Fairchild power transistors
  • Independent DC and thermal overload protection on each channel automatically protects amplifier and speakers without shutting down the show
  • Back-to-front ventilation system including air filter for reliable operation
  • Built-like-a-tank, impact-resistant, all-steel 2U rackmount chassis
  • High-quality components and exceptionally rugged construction ensure long life
  • Conceived and designed by BEHRINGER Germany
 
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#30 ·
So how much do you think Behringer spent on R&D so far? :thumbsdown: i would say not much and QSC did not update the RMX 2450 neither Tapco with their J2500 or ALTO that people say it is a clone so i'm not holding my breath on this one and i would not get more excited then the EP2500. The only thing i could imagine they did get a better transformer to explain better performance @ 4 ohms but the weight on the spec sheet tells me not. I'm looking fwd to see someone sending one to Chuck so he can give us real numbers.
 
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#33 ·
I think I am going to order another 2500 to run my mains but I am debating between that and the 4000....:scratchhead:
 
#34 ·
What do you guy's think of running my mains with the 4000 insted of the 2500. More power with the 4000 and my speakers are rated at 600w so it would be 350w more. Will it be fine as long as I am carefull not to overdrive them or will that extra power shorten the life of the speakers?
 
#35 ·
I did answered to you over AVS forum for the EP2000 vs the EP1500, the EP4000 is basically a EP2500 look at the spec again same same, Beri published 550 watts@1khz@1%thd for the EP4000 and 500 watts @1khz@0.1% thd so push it to 1 % thd you will get 550 watts, My Bryston 4B is rated 200 watts @ 0.05% if i recall and when came back from Bryston was tested 250 watts @ 0.5% thd so Beri is playing a game of data. Save your money and get the EP2500 :T
 
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#38 ·
Which part you do not understand same power comsuption 2600 watts, same gain 34 db, same weight 36.6 lbs, same sensivity 1,23 volts for same impendance so same output there is no way around this.

READ CARFULLY THE SPEC YOU HAVE TO COMPARE APPLE WITH APPLE which is not the case, do you understand what gonna happen to the power when distortion rise or mesure the output power of your amp @ 1 KHZ instead of 20 hz to 20 KHZ? or what should be the result when mesured bridged? Bridged power @ 4 ohms will be the sum of 2 ohms stereo, 8 ohms bridged sum of 4 ohms stereo right? so now the EP2500 is rated 500,750 and 1200 watts 1khz @ 0,1% thd, the EP4000 on the other side 550,950,1250 watts 1 khz @ 1 % thd doesn't sound fishy to you, why at 8 ohms and 2 ohms they are the same except the extra 50 watts coming from the 1 % thd :rofl2:, how the EP4k can be performing so great at 4 ohms stereo :rofl2:, without let say a beefier transfo(beefier transfo mean more weight) now bridged 8 ohms should be the sum of 4 ohms stereo so 950X2= 1900 watts but manual says 1750 watts surprise, 1750 over2 = 875 watts, If you compare EP2k with 4 k and the EP2500, the EP2k and EP2500 those numbers match at less :yikes: To finish last nail in the coffin H class is about 70 to 75 % efficient so 2600 watts consumption = 1820 to 1950 watts which is exactly what Chuck did test for the EP2500 over AVS forum.

I'm not saying the EP4k is a bad amp but please people stop to be over excited about it like Behringer came with something totally new untill proven other wise to me this is a rebaged. One or the other you will be happy and i'm sure both amp will perform great with the same result.
 
#41 ·
For loudness 650 watts or 950 watts is about the same anyway, to hear twice louder you need a gain of 10 DB so twice louder of 650 watts is 6500 watts, just people are stuck on silly numbers and do not really understand, these days compagny like Crown or Beri just to name one or two are playing the burst watts game (for a micro second my amp can put out zillions of watts :yay: but in real life who cares except people that only read the big numbers)if all the number would have match for the EP4k i would be the first to shut up but this thing sounds fishy.
 
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#43 ·
SO you are asking my personal taste, i own only 2 products from Beri, 2 DCX2496 i was about to buy some EP2500 back then untill i started to read they were rip off (back engineering) from QSC so i bought mix of new and used QSC's instead, they come with 6 years waranty vs 1 for Beri, yes QSC are more expensive (100 $ rebate right now)but for me i will not give my hard hearn money to people who not care about doing fair business and have someone at the other end of the telephone to give you support when needed is important to me.

Now for the EP thousand of DIYer's own them and are really happy with them.

The link you posted Crest CPX2600 is the same amp as the Peavey PV2600. Crest was bought by Peavey 8-10 years ago. Those amps are the entry level pro amp just like QSC RMX so i would expect about same performance. The only experience i have with Peavey is the CS400,CS800 and CS1000(back 1985-90) and were excellent.

Price wise check place like flea bay, musician friend time to time have open box deal, i do not think we are allowed to talk about price here, but you can find really good deal. I will always say buy from your local business, yes will be a bit more expensive but this will keep his business running so this guy can spend his money local too :hide:.

Now for main front duty i'm happy with pro amp just like many people here and over AVS forum so you should be happy, keep in mind noise from the fan some people cannot deal with the noise or do the mod of the fan, check sticky post for mod above.
 
#44 ·
Great, I am fine with the fan mods as I did the 2500 and it is not dificult at all. So far I haven't been able to find the Crest any cheaper than the price I found and e-bay has it for more plus shipping. I found one open box at northern sound but it was the same price so I would rather go with the new, obviously. I would love to go with Yamaha but they are pricey. Thanks for the input I appreciate it...:T
 
#45 ·
Yes Yamaha are more expensive but sound really great. Some review says not so great on sub duty IE P7000S but extremly reliable, fans are variable speed so when cold you do not hear it.

I own an older Yamaha the PC2002M (about 25-30 years old)for my living room hookup to a set of Klipsch Heresy II just sounds sweet and still running like new. I replaced the caps on main power supply board as precautionary maintenance and few light bulb burnt and the remaining still orignal:T
 
#48 ·
Well after a couple of day's of reading and searching I decided to replace my Crown 402 with the Mackie FR2600. It is $499 but I found an authorized dealer that has a few b-stock amps for $399 and with live.com and paypal I get another 12% off so it will be around $352. Here is the Mackie info and manual...
http://www.mackie.com/products/frseries/
 
#53 ·
The new amps have rca inputs...and I saw the old amps at what I thought were good prices at b&h photo/video- shipped. No experience with them, but have a satisfactory rating with bbb. Not always so with many NY electronic biz's I've seen:nono:

Question: If running a low level rca signal a long way: 40-50ft can you use an ep amp without add'l (pricey) equipment or ill effects? Or even to other amps with typical rca jacks? Threads were confounding, at least to me.
 
#54 ·
Yes... you can make that run with no issues... or use 12 gauge speaker wire. You might want to use shielded RCA's, depending on what route you are taking.

I am actually using two 40' runs of in-wall 12 gauge speaker wire from front to back of our HT room. It will be for the EP2500 to power the rear subs. In our previous HT room I ran a 1/4" TS cable 30' from front to back to get signal to the EP2500. I did not want to have to worry about how I was going to power up the EP2500 in the new HT room.
 
#55 ·
I agree with Sonnie and think 12g would be best. Also I bought my reciever from B+H and had no issues so at least you know one person that used them.
 
#67 · (Edited)
I don't know why they discontinued the 2500. I haven't heard anyone say the 4000 is a better amp so I am going to buy another 2500 because I have one already and love it.
 
#61 ·
Has anyone who owns a EP2500 pick up a EP4000 to hear if there is a difference?

I am a QSC guy myself but a friend of mine bought a EP2500 and uses it to drive the DIY sub I made him. I am tempted to pick up a EP4000 just to compare to his EP2500 but we both have busy schedules so it would make it tough.

It appears to be a just a rebage of the EP2500 with maybe a few minor tweaks added but the proof is in trying out the 2 in the same set-up.

If I ever get around to picking up a EP4000 and can compare then I will post my thoughts here, I wouldn't hold my breath on it happening anytime soon though.
 
#62 ·
I think behringer recently published this about the ATR whatever that is:

"Accelerated Transient Response delivers the
knock-out punch.
It takes huge pulses of energy (current and voltage) to propel
a woofer cone out fast enough to match a bass beat. That’s called
Transient Response and it’s the holy grail of amp designers. By
carefully selecting transistors and MOSFETs with extremely
high slew rates and optimizing other proprietary parts of our
amps’ circuitry, they are able to react instantly to even the most
demanding electronic bass impulses. If the woofers in your
PA system can keep up, your audience will hear a tighter, crisper,
more natural sound."

Looks like marketing to me.
 
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