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Settings after running Audyssey

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#1 ·
So after I ran the set up I'm not to happy with it. Seems like music really over power voices in movies.
Here is what the settings are after I ran Audyssey MultiEQ

First my Equipment
Onkyo 709
Fronts Polk Monitor 70 II
Center Polk CS2 Serious II
Surround Polk OWM3
Sup Klipsch RW-12d

Sub -Yes
Front -40hz
Center -50hz
Surr -100hz

Audyssey -Movie
Dynamic EQ- on
Dynamic Volume -off

Under Audio settings heres what I have

Bass +2db
Treb 0db
Sub Level -4.0
Center -9.5
Dolby Volume Off
Audyssey Movie
Dynamic EQ On
Dynamic Volume off
Late Night Off
Re-Eq Off

any suggestions on how to adjust so I dont need volume so loud to here voices when there is music in back ground?
should I have all speakers at 80hz since I have power sub?

Please help wife not so happy I spent all this money and sound has to be so loud to here everything
 
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#2 ·
Your centre channel volume seems low at -9 raising that is a good start. How many position's did you messure with Audessey? Did you use a tripod for the mic at ear level?
 
#3 ·
Do you have an SPL meter? If you do make sure to set all speakers to reference,75db, and I would also go into your speaker set up and change the crossovers for your mains and center to 80hz. Start there and see if it sounds better. Also don't be afraid to bump up the SPL on your center channel a couple of db's.
 
#4 ·
A normal procedure after running Audyssey is to raise the XO on the front and center with approx 20Hz, increase the gain on the center by 3-6ish db and the sub by 3ish db.

This seems to be almost "uniform" for everyone that has a Audyssey receiver.

You can also try to turn of Dynamic EQ. Many prefer that function off as it could make the soundsystem boomy at lower listening levels.
 
#10 ·
A normal procedure after running Audyssey is to raise the XO on the front and center with approx 20Hz, increase the gain on the center by 3-6ish db and the sub by 3ish db.

This seems to be almost "uniform" for everyone that has a Audyssey receiver.
No way. If the levels set by Audyssey are unsatisfactory, it is a consequence of poor speaker orientation or listener preference. In my experience, the levels are more accurate than one can achieve by ear or with a regular SLM.
 
#5 ·
I concur your center level seems low, doubt youll like the effect of Dolby volume but I would try adjusting Audyssey Movie to other modes. May or may not make a big diff with this specific issue youre having but I wouldnt automatically set every crossover to 80 (or leave it to Audyssey to decide for that matter), definitely experiment (especially on your mains).
 
#6 · (Edited)
I did not use a tripod just sat as still as I could holding at ear level in three different positions

I do not have an spl meter and I'm really a new to all this. This is my first time doing a home theater so just learning what everything means has been a challenge

Ill raise the Center channel level and change everything to 80hx and see what happens.
what is the XO on the front and center? Not sure what you mean by saying increase the gain by 3-6ish db and the sub by 3ish. Are you referring to just the lever of it in the level calibration?

Also under the settings
Thx Audio set up is
THX ultra 2/select 2 sub woofer- yes I forgot I have second sub hooked up but its set really low I just use it to balance things if I feel it needs it
BGC -OFF
Loudness Plus - on

Will the receiver pick the best format for sound auto for system. I notice when watching TV its picks Stereo and when in hd with DD available it seems to change itself for that

I should mention this is not a dedicated Theater room. Its my living room that one wall is opened up to kitchen and dinning. More of a great room so I know its not gonna be perfect but thats OK
Thanks for any help
 
#7 ·
Definitely get a small tripod and do the test over again holding the mic is going to introduce noise and mess the readings up.
 
#11 ·
Nope. The bulk of the camera in the vicinity of the mic will influence the measurements. Use the tripod by itself or, better, get a mic stand.

See the Audyssey set-up guide on AVS for the proper procedures.
 
#9 ·
make sure you read as many position's as possible even if it means doing the main spot where you sit twice. Audessey lets you read up to 8 spots I think so do at least 6.
 
#12 ·
meant to say tripod not camera. Just waiting for wide and kid to leave and Ill run ever thing again and post results to see what changes. Since this is in my living room and theres really only two main spots myself and wife sit should I still measure other seats in the room. I have a large wrap around couch so should I got ahead and measure each spot that could be used as seats although most likely would not?
 
#13 ·
Thats what I use is a full-size camera tripod. Dont forget to recline any recliners if they will be part of the measured seating. Obviously setting up a tripod directly on your seating is a bear, I use a metal coat hanger pulled out (but not disassembled) and attach that to the top of the tripod and extend it over my seating to orient the mic exactly where the listeners head would be while seated in a reclined position. Its funky and you might need to use tape to secure everything but it will give you the extra extension while the tripod remains firmly on the floor.
 
#14 ·
To get best results read the seating positions that you would normally use if you were watching a movie and read the same positions twice or even three times to get best results.
Place the mic straight up and the top where your ear would be. Dont sit anywhere near the mic when doing the readings.
 
#18 ·
I agree with Kal, I also use a 50Hz crossover on all my speakers except my centre ch, its at 60Hz
 
#20 ·
OK just ran it using six positions on a tripod and left the room heres what I got

Front 30hz
Center 60hz
Surr 120hz
Sub -Yes


Audyssey -Movie
Dynamic EQ- on
Dynamic Volume -off

Under Audio settings heres what I have

Bass +2db
Treb 0db
Sub Level -4.5
Center -8.5
Dolby Volume Off
Audyssey Movie
Dynamic EQ On
Dynamic Volume off
Late Night Off
Re-Eq Off


Level Calibration are as follows
Left -4.5
Center -8.5
Right -4.5
Surround right -5.5
Surround left -5.5
Sub -4.5

Again should I switch speakers to 80hz and maybe increase sub as well as center channel Doesn't seem to be much different then before
 
#21 ·
do you have an SPL meter? if you dont then goi into the "speaker level" settings and run through the front left/right speakers and try to bring up the centre channel to the same level using the test noise that you hear.

Bring up the crossover on your front speakers to about 60Hz
 
#22 · (Edited)
OK so watching fast five it still appears at lower volume levels the voices are hard to here so I increased the Center channel and not much difference but when I turn Dolby volume on it was much better. OK great so I go it to work better but I hate not understanding what exactly Dolby volume is our does?
At higher volume things sound great
No SPL meter Honestly didn't even know what that was had to google it. Remember I'm really like a newbie of newbies
 
#23 ·
what surround format are you using for the movie? is it from a bluray player?
 
#26 ·
Ok there's part of the problem, are you sending bitsream from the PS3?
 
#27 ·
Yes sending bitstream I have a samsung bdc 6900 in the other room Starting useing the ps3 as blue ray when 3d was added to it as I have a 3d tv Should I use the Samsung player instead of PS3 Didnt know if that matters or not? Got the BDC 6900 at the same time I got the 3d tv
 
#28 ·
change your surround mode on the receiver to straight Dolby TruHD or DTS MA (depending on what you sending from the player) I bet that will help. Also try one of the THX modes like cinema if you have it on that receiver?
 
#30 ·
Now I'm confused by some of these answers. I thought it was universally accepted that after Audyssey is run to adjust all of the x/o's to 80 hz? When I ran it with my setup I think it was 40hz on L/R 60hz center and 90hz on my surrounds. Should I have left them alone?
 
#31 ·
JBrax said:
Now I'm confused by some of these answers. I thought it was universally accepted that after Audyssey is run to adjust all of the x/o's to 80 hz? When I ran it with my setup I think it was 40hz on L/R 60hz center and 90hz on my surrounds. Should I have left them alone?
Xt go to 80. Xt32 depends on your speakers, amps, and how it sounds. If you speakers are full range and your amps are very very robust and you have xt 32 and your main speakers have no placement issues raising room modes, then lower xover works fine.
 
#36 ·
I would love to know where you get this from? having XT or XT32 has no real barring on the crossover of the speakers. The crossover being higher (set to 80Hz) is advantages if you are using the 709s internal amps as this will release some of the load off of them and put more on the sub. However if your running speakers with good low end extension and for example your using an external amp to drive them then a lower crossover can be very useful.
 
#32 ·
jmschnur said:
Xt go to 80. Xt32 depends on your speakers, amps, and how it sounds. If you speakers are full range and your amps are very very robust and you have xt 32 and your main speakers have no placement issues raising room modes, then lower xover works fine.
The advice being given is for the 709 which is XT.
 
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