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OPPO BDP-93 Official Discussion Thread

For the Full Review: Click Here!

Review Summary: I absolutely adore this Blu-ray player. In truth, I also own a BDP-83 that I never appreciated the way I do the 93. The new industrial design which I find to be stunning combined with a much higher quality transport over the BDP-83 has made this my new reference BDP. I really think the new casework is as good or better than Lexicon's $3500 BD-30. The fact that the BD-30 is simply a repackaged BDP-83 has engendered a great deal of controversy as Lexicon saw fit to add $3000 to the BDP-83 for new casework. I also greatly appreciate that unlike the BDP-83, the BDP-93 performs flawlessly without a fan. Of all the things I never thought I would have much use for, Netflix streaming has become a staple of my viewing regiment. The Marvell Qdeo processor really does make the picture quality quite good. I look forward to the day when it offers Dolby Digital Plus playback which is currently a PS3 exclusive. Regardless, the combination of universal playback, network capability, rapid loading times of all media, beautiful industrial design, near silent operation, 3D ready, and reasonable price... has me hooked.

Features

Diversified Media Support:
  • Blu-ray Disc - The high definition Blu-ray Disc™ format provides pristine video and audio quality for your home entertainment.
  • Blu-ray 3D – Experience high definition in all new dimensions. The BDP-93 supports the new Blu-ray 3D specifications (3D television and glasses required).
  • Netflix Instant Streaming Ready - Instantly watch movies streamed to your TV via the Internet connected OPPO Blu-ray Disc Player. (Unlimited membership required. US only)
  • Blockbuster on Demand - The newest releases instantly from your couch! (Service available in the United States only)
  • BD-Live & BonusVIEW - The BDP-93 supports BD-Live™ (Profile 2.0) and contains all necessary hardware - audio/video decoder, Ethernet and wireless networking, and 1GB of internal storage - for BD-Live. It also supports BonusVIEW (Profile 1.1) enabling "picture-in-picture" and audio features for viewing director or actor commentary while the main movie is playing.
  • DVD-Audio - The BDP-93 plays DVD-Audio and supports both stereo and multi-channel high resolution audio programs. Users can select whether to play the DVD-Audio or the DVD-Video portion of the disc.
  • SACD - The BDP-93 plays Super Audio CD (SACD) and supports both stereo and multi-channel high resolution audio programs. Users can select whether to output the DSD (Direct Stream Digital) signal in its native format or convert it into PCM.
  • Additional Disc & Media Formats - Additional disc and file formats, such as DVD, audio CD, HDCD, Kodak Picture CD, AVCHD, MP4, DivX, MKV, FLAC, WAV and other audio/video/picture files on recorded discs, USB or eSATA drives can be played back on the BDP-93.

Unparalleled Video Quality:
  • Qdeo by Marvell - The BDP-93 incorporates Marvell's Kyoto-G2 video processor with the second generation Qdeo™ technology. Qdeo video processing delivers a truly immersive viewing experience by rendering quiet natural video free of noise and artifacts for all types of content. For high-quality Blu-ray content, the BDP-93 faithfully reproduces the program just as the director intended; for DVD, the up-converted picture quality bridges the visual gap from your current DVD library to Blu-ray discs; for network streaming and user-encoded content at a variety of formats and quality, the BDP-93 offers enhancement options including video noise reduction, compression artifact reduction, intelligent color, contrast, detail and edge enhancements.
  • DVD Up-Conversion - Per-pixel motion-adaptive de-interlacing and advanced scaling transform the standard definition image on DVDs to high definition output to your TV. Additional Qdeo video processing options help to deliver a clearer, smoother, and true-to-life picture free of noise and artifacts.
  • Full HD 1080p Output - The BDP-93 features user selectable video output resolutions, including 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, and up to 1080p 50 or 60Hz.
  • True 24p™ Video - Many Blu-ray Discs are recorded at 24 frames per second, the same frame rate as the original movie's theatrical release. The BDP-93 can faithfully redeliver the original frames using 1080p 24Hz output (compatible display required) for smoother motion and a flicker-free, film-like home theater experience.
  • Source Direct Mode - For users who wish to use an external video processor, high-end audio/video receiver or display, the BDP-93 offers a "Source Direct" mode. The original audio/video content on the discs is sent out with no additional processing or alteration.
  • Multiple Zoom Modes - The BDP-93 supports multiple levels of aspect ratio control and image zooming, including a vertical stretch mode for customers with a 2.35:1 CIH (Constant Image Height) display system. A unique subtitle shift feature allows the user to move the subtitle up and down, making it possible to see all subtitle text when using a 2.35:1 CIH display. (Blu-ray discs with BD-Java may prohibit zoom operation.)
  • Dual HDMI v1.4a Outputs - Two assignable HDMI v1.4a outputs are provided to capitalize on the optimum audio and video settings to all old, new, and future HDMI televisions and receivers. With the option of full audio and video output to 2 displays; or dedicate one HDMI for audio, the other for video, it promotes a high quality video and audio for both signal paths. The BDP-93 supports 3D and Deep Color modes on both HDMI output ports.

High Fidelity Audio:
  • Dolby® TrueHD - Dolby TrueHD delivers lossless studio master quality audio designed specifically for high definition entertainment. The BDP-93 supports bit-stream output of Dolby TrueHD via its HDMI 1.4a output. It can also internally decode Dolby TrueHD into LPCM and output via HDMI or the 7.1ch analog audio output terminals. (Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital Plus audio formats are also supported.).
  • DTS-HD Master Audio™ - DTS-HD Master Audio delivers an auditory experience that matches the lifelike images of high-definition video with up to 7.1 channels that are bit-for-bit identical to the studio master. The BDP-93 supports bit-stream output of DTS-HD Master Audio. It can also internally decode DTS-HD Master Audio and output via HDMI or the 7.1ch analog audio output terminals. (DTS-HD High Resolution Audio and DTS Digital Surround are also supported.)
  • 7.1-Channel Analog Output - Individual analog 7.1-channel surround outputs are ideal to connect to a 7.1-channel or 5.1-channel surround sound system. The BDP-93 delivers an incredible sound stage and an immersive surround experience. For users with stereo speakers, the BDP-93 offers a down-mix mode.
  • Digital Optical and Coaxial Outputs - For simple and easy connection to more traditional A/V receivers, the BDP-93 features both optical and coaxial outputs for digital audio.

Ultimate Convenience:
  • Dual HDMI Outputs – The BDP-93 is equipped with two HDMI output ports and offers the most versatile installation options. You do not have to upgrade your A/V receiver to a 3D model in order to enjoy 3D. One HDMI output of the BDP-93 can be connected to a 3D TV and the other can be connected to a pre-3D HDMI v1.1-v1.3 A/V receiver. For projector users, you can connect one output to a projector for home theater use and the other to a TV for casual viewing. For a multi-room installation the BDP-93 can output audio and video to two 3D or 2D TVs simultaneously.
  • eSATA Port – The BDP-93 features an eSATA port on its back panel. Consumers can take advantage of this fast eSATA connection to play contents from their hard disks full of audio, video and photo files. Most commercially available hard disks pre-formatted with NTFS, FAT32 and FAT file systems are supported, and file sizes larger than 4GB can be played back.
  • Wireless & Ethernet – Using the included wireless-N adapter or the built-in RJ45 Ethernet port, users will be able to interact with BD-Live content, watch instant streaming programs from provides such as Netflix, Blockbuster etc., playback contents on their home network, and update firmware to keep up with new Blu-ray releases.
  • Dual USB Ports - Two USB 2.0 high speed ports are provided, one on the front panel and one on the back. Users can enjoy high definition video, high resolution photos and music directly from their USB drives.
  • PAL/NTSC Conversion - The BDP-93 supports NTSC and PAL systems for both disc playback and video output. It can also convert content of one system for output in another. (Subject to DVD and BD region restrictions.)
  • Back-lit Remote Control - The BDP-93 comes with a fully back-lit remote control for ease of use in dark home theaters. With its ergonomic button layout and clear labeling, operating the Blu-ray Disc player is easier than ever.
  • Universal Power Supply - The BDP-93 features a wide-range world power supply that is compatible with AC power from all regions. No worries about damaging the player due to incorrect power voltage.
  • External IR - For integration into home theater control systems, the BDP-93 provides external IR IN port to use with an IR distribution system.
  • RS232 Control - For custom installation, the BDP-93 offers an RS232 control port with a rich control and communication protocol. Installers can easily program their favorite control systems to operate the BDP-93.
  • HDMI CEC - HDMI Consumer Electronics Control simplifies the home theater by allowing a single remote control to operate multiple devices.

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#253 ·
Congrats on a decision you will never regret......:T
 
#255 ·
re: OPPO Digital BDP-93 Blu-ray Player Review

This s a little off topic but the Oppo is using Qdeo video processing. My reciever (Onkyo 5009) also uses the same chip. What is the best way to have the two work together properly? Should the signal pass through the AVR untouched? Or?
 
#257 ·
re: OPPO Digital BDP-93 Blu-ray Player Review

This s a little off topic but the Oppo is using Qdeo video processing. My reciever (Onkyo 5009) also uses the same chip. What is the best way to have the two work together properly? Should the signal pass through the AVR untouched? Or?
Hello,
While the 5009 does incorporate the Qdeo, the main Processing Chip is the HQV Vida. Both are excellent and in truth Onkyo is the only Brand that uses 2 VP Chips. Many, many AVR's use the Qdeo on its own.

Personally, I would hook up the 93's HDMI 1 directly to your TV and run HDMI 2 to your 5009. From there, you can decide which you prefer. When the 93 was tested by Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity, it truly did fantastic. While many Brands might use the same VP Chip, not all are as well implemented as OPPO. That being said, the upper level Onkyo's have always tested quite well so it really might be one of those 6 in one, half dozen the other scenario...
Cheers,
J
 
#258 ·
re: OPPO Digital BDP-93 Blu-ray Player Review

My two cents worth of opinion is to let the OPPO do all the work if you can bypass the processing in the Onkyo. I am not familar with the Onkyo myself but I do have and use the bypass mode on my Outlaw 990.
 
#260 ·
re: OPPO Digital BDP-93 Blu-ray Player Review

My two cents worth of opinion is to let the OPPO do all the work if you can bypass the processing in the Onkyo. I am not familar with the Onkyo myself but I do have and use the bypass mode on my Outlaw 990.
Hello,
This is an interesting debate as the OPPO and the Onkyo both use the same Video Processor. However, the Onkyo also adds the HQV Vida Video Processor that when Video Bench Tested by Audioholics posted a perfect score on an extensive battery of Video Patterns.

This is truly an exceedingly rare exception where the argument can be made that the Onkyo has the potential to even better the PQ.
Cheers,
J
 
#259 ·
re: OPPO Digital BDP-93 Blu-ray Player Review

Hate to burst anyones bubble but I just received notice from Blockbuster that they will no longer be supporting there APP for streaming on the OPPO.
I myself liked Blockbuser and the idea of renting new movies without going to the actual store.
 
#261 ·
re: OPPO Digital BDP-93 Blu-ray Player Review

Hate to burst anyones bubble but I just received notice from Blockbuster that they will no longer be supporting there APP for streaming on the OPPO.
I myself liked Blockbuser and the idea of renting new movies without going to the actual store.
Hello,
Vudu is still available and offers 1080p and Dolby Digital Plus (know it is DD, not positive it is DD+) However, that is a bummer about Blockbuster.
Cheers,
J
 
#262 ·
AHHH!! I just pulled the trigger! I'll have my BDP-93 Wednesday! Awaiting with great anticipation!
 
#264 ·
Hello,
Congratulations indeed. The 93 is my all time favorite Source Component by a very large margin. I especially like the lack of a Fan. Just an awesome product.
Cheers,
JJ
 
#265 ·
Well guys, I've been watching and waiting for months now for the price on the almighty oppo 93 to go below $499.99 but it appears that simply isn't going to happen, so I've gone forward and purchased one earlier this afternoon. It should arrive either Tuesday, or Wednesday, so now it's almost time to watch all my favorite movies once again, but this time on the oppo. :T

If I should run into any issues, you'll probably be hearing from me...
 
#266 ·
ozar said:
Well guys, I've been watching and waiting for months now for the price on the almighty oppo 93 to go below $499.99 but it appears that simply isn't going to happen, so I've gone forward and purchased one earlier this afternoon. It should arrive either Tuesday, or Wednesday, so now it's almost time to watch all my favorite movies once again, but this time on the oppo. :T

If I should run into any issues, you'll probably be hearing from me...
Congrats!!
 
#267 ·
Hi everyone,
I've just unwrapped one yesterday and I must say that this forum played it's role in the decision making!
First impression was magnificent, the packaging and all, including a textile bag, really classy. The same for the case design, the front panel looks great.
Then a slight disappointment as I put it on a table and the unit was literally wobbling, with its feet uneven and not adjustable (or are they?).
But then I started to feed it with discs and all worries gone! The tray smoothness, loading speed, wow!
For now, I hooked it up just through HDMI1 to my Onkyo 905 as I regularly use two displays (plasma and projector) and therefore direct connection to a display wouldn't work.
I was curious mainly about DVD upscaling. With Onkyo set to pass-through, the image was significantly improved, making some DVDs almost watchable on a big screen (though I'll probably stick with TV for watching DVDs).

So far, I have hit one issue. With CEC function on, it works correctly "downstream", when I turn my TV off, it shuts the AVR and BDP. But the other way, the BDP won't turn the AVR and TV on. Any idea? Or is it a compatibility issue between Oppo, Onkyo and Panasonic?
 
#268 ·
Hello,
The 93 is an absolute gem. As for CEC, it really is one of those things that is honestly hit or miss. With my Setup, when I turn on my 93, it switches my Sony TV Input to the one that I connected directly to the TV (HDMI 1) Note that only the HDMI 1 Output of the 93 uses the Marvell Qdeo Processor. I have HDMI 2 connected to my Onkyo TX-NR3008 to handle Sound and if I am lazy to be able to switch Sources without changing HDMI Inputs. And indeed just the presentation of the 93 really makes an excellent impression.
Cheers,
JJ
 
#269 ·
Hello JJ,
after a few weeks' experience I must say this BDP is the real hit.
One thing bothers me though - none of the streaming services supported by the player FW is available here in the Czech Republic. As there's no way around this (except perhaps for faking your proxy location which I don't want to do), is there any optional way how to use services that are locally available but not included in the "official" FW (MUBI springs to mind)?

Thanks for any tip.
JCZ
 
#270 ·
Hello,
I am so happy you are pleased on the whole. Unfortunately, the Streaming Services are indeed meant for the US it seems. A TOR Network would probably be the only way to get around the IP Identification. Google the above Sentence and you will find a trove of information. As for local services that are not supported, I would imagine they would not be compatible. I would highly recommend Emailing OPPO as they have some of the best Customer Service out there.
Cheers,
JJ
 
#273 ·
Here are the changes:
1) Added "DVD 24p Conversion". This feature restores the original 24 film frames from DVD-Video and outputs it as 1080p/24Hz. To enable this feature, enter the Video Setup in the Setup Menu, set the "1080p24 Output" to be "Auto" or "On", and set the "DVD 24p Conversion" to be "On". Note: the actual DVD 24Hz conversion quality can be affected by the display’s processing and video source, especially for a non-3:2 pulldown cadence source.

2) Resolved random freezing issue while streaming from Netflix. Previously, customers reported that after installing the last Official firmware (BDP9x-66-0413), Netflix streaming could be unreliable, and in some cases, even result in the player completely freezing until a power cycle was performed. This firmware has resolved these issues.

3)Resolved the audio decoding failure on the "Volume Sixteen" DTS Blu-ray Demo Disc (released CES 2012). Customers reported clips for "Tron" and "Lion King" were improperly decoded when HDMI was set to LPCM. This firmware upgrades the DTS SDK to correct changes in the encoding standards for these kind of soundtracks.

4) Improved general disc compatibility based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples, such as "Dexter (BD, Season 4)".

While I have not done an FW Update before Beta 64-0119B, it might be time to reconsider. It did bother to lose ISO Support even though I never use it.
Cheers,
JJ
 
#274 ·
Cnet reports that Oppo is one of the partners for the new Roku Stick, that you just plug in and you have all Roku services without a box. Devices will have a Roku Ready logo on them, and I wonder if that means we have a new model coming?

Makes it easy for Oppo, they just make deals with Roku, and Roku gets all the content providers.
 
#275 ·
Hi, new member and I have a question. I notice that many, many people have an Oppo BD player. I have to ask a real serious question. Is there really that much difference is PQ than other brands? I have a Samsung 3D player and I think it looks great, can it really get better? Thanks.
 
#276 ·
If you are planning to just watch Blu-ray and bitstream audio over HDMI, and use some streaming services, IMO any brand is just about fine. I prefer Panasonic and Sony though for standard blu-ray players.

Oppo excels with analog audio and DVD upconversion. It also allows for a source direct mode if using a video processor. I feel Oppo needs to release a non analog audio version in the $300 range, and then a higher tier audio related version, but thats my 0.02.

The Oppo is also good at playing back SACD and DVD-A if you have that need.
 
#278 ·
If using a player to send analog audio to the avr/preamp/amp, the players digital to analog converter is doing the work. If you bitstream digital to the avr, then it's DAC is doing the work. For me, if you have a modern AVR thats a reliable brand and decodes lossless audio, I see no benefit in outputting analog from a blu player. I'm not an audiophile either, and nor do I want the extra cables running around vs the one HDMI. IIRC, analog input into some or most avr's is not subject to Audyssey or other room correction, so you have to manually EQ your system (I think).

DVD upconversion is just that, when you watch a DVD, either the display or the player must scale it to 1080p, from its native resolution. The Marvell chip does a pretty good job with this.
 
#284 ·
Thanks for the post. More or less if I was going to upgrade to the oppo it would be more or less for an upgraded sound quality. At this point my interest have went to sound and bass from PQ. The PQ is so good today with just basic equipment it is really hard to spend the money for PQ. My Samsung D8000 hooked to my Comcast DVR and Samsung BD-D5500 is just amazing alone.
 
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