Home Theater Shack Forums
Home About Us Rules Register Gallery Glossary FAQ
Creative Sound Solutions: Loudspeaker kits and components for subwoofers, midwoofers, woofers and full range speakers! Reliable Hardware: A Reliable Source for Case, Cabinet and Acoustical Hardware! Epik Subwoofers manufactures world-leading high performance subwoofers for die-hard home theater and music enthusiasts who won't settle for anything less than the best. Parts Express: Excellent Source for DIY Speaker and Subwoofer Projects! RAM Electronics: Audio, Video, Home Theater and Computer Cables. PacParts: Replacement parts & accessories from the most recognized manufacturers in the Consumer Electronics Industry! Discount Merchant:  If you need a replacement bulb for your video device... look no further... save big! Emotiva is your Home Theater Component Source for Audiophile Quality Home Theater Equipment at Factory Direct Prices Fi Audio: Infinitely amazing balanced high end musicality designed drivers! Ultimate Home Entertainment: Providing home theater seating and accessories such as popcorn machines and signage... at very affordable prices! Visual Apex: The most competitive pricing for home theater projectors... and built on customer satisfaction! BOCS - Power Up Your Tivo! Elite Screens offers the finest in affordable projection screens. SVSound GIK Acoustics: Home audio acoustics at its best... especially when you have help from the owners right here at the Shack!  Check out their very affordable acoustic panels!
Go Back   Home Theater Forum and Systems - HomeTheaterShack.com > DIY Speakers | DIY Subwoofers > DIY Subwoofers > DIY Subwoofers and Build Projects > Ported Subwoofer Build Projects
Forgot Password?

Ported Subwoofer Build Projects

  Discuss Ported EBS build - pics in the DIY Subwoofers and Build Projects forum; Ported EBS build - pics I don't see that term "EBS" used too often. I am pretty new to subwoofers, all of Home Theater in ...



 Reply     Post New Thread
Views: 3054 - Replies: 87  
Thread Tools
Old 01-07-09, 06:59 AM   #11
Senior Shackster
Alias: ginseng
bluejay's Avatar
Loc: Manitoulin Is., Ontario
User: #11443
Since: Sep 2007
Posts: 140
  bluejay is offline  
Re: Ported EBS build - pics


Quote:
I don't see that term "EBS" used too often.
I am pretty new to subwoofers, all of Home Theater in fact. EBS and LLT are equally new to me as well. I did not know what either meant 2 weeks ago. I did notice that two of the tuning choices inside WinISD are described as EBS 3db or 6db.

After reading the LLT description a couple of times I came to the conclusion that my chosen design was not aiming low enough to meet LLT criteria.
This has a lot to do with my budget on this project. I was up in the air for a long time choosing drivers. For an extra $100 or so I could have procured a driver more suited to LLT, something lending itself to flatter response below 18 Hz.

So for now I will enjoy all I can with an extended bass shelf design using the MJ-18m. If the cash crunch ever lets up around here I can easily upgrade to an IXL-18.2.2. I think that is a better subwoofer for a large and low tuned box, based on playing around in WinISD for only about 1 week.



Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Alt Advertisement
Old 01-07-09, 10:31 AM   #12
Senior Shackster
Alias: PHIL
ISLAND1000's Avatar
Loc: SHERMAN, TX
User: #8655
Since: May 2007
Posts: 609
  ISLAND1000 is offline  
Re: Ported EBS build - pics


Your project is gonna produce some prodigious bottom end. The box will probably need more braces. I built a similar sized ported box using an 18" Pro driver and began with 2x4 braces spanning the center of each panel. It wasn't enough bracing. The panels would vibrate at higher dbls at certain frequencies and it was perceptible. At lower volumes it wasn't. Try yours and see.
The IXL 18 2.2 IS an excellent driver. Others have used it and rave about it.


Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-09, 11:17 AM   #13
Senior Shackster
Silver Supporter
Alias: TC
Loc: Worcester Mass.
User: #9814
Since: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,135
  tcarcio is offline  
Re: Ported EBS build - pics


Build looks great, Have you decided on a finish?


Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-09, 12:49 PM   #14
Senior Shackster
Alias: ginseng
bluejay's Avatar
Loc: Manitoulin Is., Ontario
User: #11443
Since: Sep 2007
Posts: 140
  bluejay is offline  
Re: Ported EBS build - pics


Quote:
Build looks great, Have you decided on a finish?
Yes, I picked out a green paint yesterday. I am trying for an environmentally friendly sub.

The next pictures are before and after I siliconed the port tubes in. I also squeezed a bit of no nails adhesive into a few gaps to see if that product will stand up to subwoofery. I have heard good things about it from my cabinet maker friend.

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/attachments/ported-subwoofer-build-projects/11435d1231353775-ported-ebs-build-pics-img_4138.jpg
http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/attachments/ported-subwoofer-build-projects/11436d1231353775-ported-ebs-build-pics-img_4139.jpg

Attachments
  

Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-09, 01:06 PM   #15
Senior Shackster
Alias: PHIL
ISLAND1000's Avatar
Loc: SHERMAN, TX
User: #8655
Since: May 2007
Posts: 609
  ISLAND1000 is offline  
Re: Ported EBS build - pics


I just love lookin down the throat of that sub and seein all the innards and stuff. Great photography.


Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-09, 07:27 AM   #16
Senior Shackster
Alias: ginseng
bluejay's Avatar
Loc: Manitoulin Is., Ontario
User: #11443
Since: Sep 2007
Posts: 140
  bluejay is offline  
Re: Ported EBS build - pics


Quote:
The box will probably need more braces. I built a similar sized ported box using an 18" Pro driver and began with 2x4 braces spanning the center of each panel. It wasn't enough bracing.
Now that I look at it some more, I am hoping the actual tubes and their mounts are going to aid in this problem.

Quote:
I just love lookin down the throat of that sub and seein all the innards and stuff.
Me too. If something loosens up in there, I will definitely hear a rattle or buzz of some sort. That being said, my cabinet maker friend swears by the strength of glue over mechanical fasteners so I have to give his theory a try. I used his shop and he gave me a hand when 4 hands sped up the process.


Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-09, 07:45 AM   #17
Shack Administrator
Platinum Supporter
Alias: Mike
Mike P.'s Avatar
Loc: Chitek Lake, Sask. Canada
User: #8033
Since: Apr 2007
Posts: 8,917
  Mike P. is online now    
Re: Ported EBS build - pics


Looks like it's time to install the sub and fire it up.


Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-09, 07:48 AM   #18
Shackster
Alias: Josh
Loc: New Hampshire
User: #31152
Since: Dec 2008
Posts: 46
  Quake25 is offline  
Re: Ported EBS build - pics


Looking good so far! Have you decided on a batting and/or fill? I am still considering these materials myself.

Just ordered my Driver and Sub...I'm right behind you!


Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-09, 08:35 AM   #19
Senior Shackster
Alias: ginseng
bluejay's Avatar
Loc: Manitoulin Is., Ontario
User: #11443
Since: Sep 2007
Posts: 140
  bluejay is offline  
Re: Ported EBS build - pics


Quote:
Have you decided on a batting and/or fill? I am still considering these materials myself.
I am semi allergic to pink fiberglass insulation, so definitely none of that. I don't want to have light fasteners like staples, detaching inside and gumming up the magnet. The inside will be hollow as you see it.

I just do not think I will be that hard to please. I need a sub do dump off the low frequencies present in home theater, so my other speakers don't over excur. Plus the music these days contains tons of low frequency tones, boom boom boom. My regular speakers make tympany sound like tympany, cello sound like cello, and guitar sound like guitar. I expect the sub to make boom boom boom sound like boom boom boom.

I am not trying to oversimplify the subject or make light of the technical details. I just think I am not that hard to please and batting won't help make it better to me.


Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-09, 10:15 AM   #20
Senior Shackster
Alias: PHIL
ISLAND1000's Avatar
Loc: SHERMAN, TX
User: #8655
Since: May 2007
Posts: 609
  ISLAND1000 is offline  
Re: Ported EBS build - pics


Quote:
bluejay wrote: View Post
I am not trying to oversimplify the subject or make light of the technical details. I just think I am not that hard to please and batting won't help make it better to me.
There are some technical considerations regarding acoustics and physics using batting. But since your box and driver combination wasn't an attempt to use a smaller box than optimum for your driver and desired frequency response then the only reason you need batting is to reduce internal reflection. There is even a debate over whether ANY batting is needed. But since egg crate foam is easy to obtain and it's cheap and it's easy to install, I say cover the inside with some foam. It makes a "box" seem a little bit more complicated for those that "don't know anything" and need to be impressed with your sonic accumen.


Forum Rules Reply With Quote
 Reply     Post New Thread     Post New Thread


« Home Theater Shack > DIY Speakers | DIY Subwoofers > DIY Subwoofers > DIY Subwoofers and Build Projects > Ported Subwoofer Build Projects »

« Previous Thread   Next Thread »

Bookmarks

Tags
build, pics, ported
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads... You may not post replies... You may not post attachments... You may not edit your posts

BB code is On... Smilies are On... [IMG] code is On... HTML is not allowed!



Bookmark and Share


Parts Express: The #1 Internet source for all your DIY and electronics needs!

Ultimate Home Entertainment    

This site is best viewed with a screen resolution width of 1280 or higher!




Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2006 - 2010, Home Theater Shack, LLC.
John Mulcahy and Sonnie Parker - ALL RIGHTS RESERVED!



Massage Chairs   Wall Fountains   Bath Vanities   Electric Fireplaces   Bunk Beds

Dish Network



Sponsor/Vendor Ad Rates

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0