Screen Recommendation for Sanyo Z700

**Klawd** · **10-07-09, 09:32 AM**

It's already somewhat hard to have the wife understand the "why" of a non-white screen that I'm pretty sure C&S will be just fine for us. If I ever feel the need of going darker, I'll just wait it out a tad more

Anyhow, my son (4.5y/o) has been enjoying the projector on a dark brown wall, so white, grey or purple, he doesn't care... As long as it's a BIG screen

**Klawd** · **10-08-09, 10:50 AM**

Quick question on the SW Luminous White.

Which "kind" of SW paint should be used? They have a bunch on different interior latex paints available. (Duration, Superpaint, etc.) Their Cashmere paint sounds like it would be a good one since they claim it "auto-levels" and doesn't leaves rollers marks.

Thanks.

**Harpmaker** · **10-08-09, 11:52 AM**

I believe both Mech and I used "Superpaint" in LW.

I would like to experiment with the other SW paints, but in my area they don't sell them in quarts and they are simply too expensive for me to get in gallons.

Also, at least in the U.S., SW has replaced LW (which is a base color, not a tinted color) with another color in the "Superpaint" line, Mech tried it, but I forget the particulars at the moment.

If using LW I would suggest using whatever SW paint you can get it in as long as it's a flat or matte finish.

**wbassett** · **10-08-09, 06:33 PM**

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Klawd wrote:

Quick question on the SW Luminous White.

Which "kind" of SW paint should be used? They have a bunch on different interior latex paints available. (Duration, Superpaint, etc.) Their Cashmere paint sounds like it would be a good one since they claim it "auto-levels" and doesn't leaves rollers marks.

Thanks.

I've used the Duration Matte finish and the Superpaint and both roll very smooth and didn't leave any roller marks.

Cashmere was used and tested and it wasn't as neutral as the others.

**Harpmaker** · **10-08-09, 07:43 PM**

Thanks Bill! I didn't know that.

**Klawd** · **10-09-09, 08:18 AM**

I guess it'll be Superpaint then

**Klawd** · **10-13-09, 01:23 PM**

Little update:

Primed the screen with 2 coats of Kilz2. It actually removed some hotspotting from the white HDF. I've also received the CSMS

Now, off to trying to find the SW Luminous White.

**Klawd** · **10-14-09, 06:01 PM**

Doesn't look like SW has any Luminous White around here

Have there been any tests with any Benjamin Moore products? They seem to say they have quite a bit of Titanium Dioxide in their F215-01 (base) paint which might mimic the SW LW...

**Harpmaker** · **10-14-09, 06:47 PM**

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Klawd wrote:

Doesn't look like SW has any Luminous White around here

Have there been any tests with any Benjamin Moore products? They seem to say they have quite a bit of Titanium Dioxide in their F215-01 (base) paint which might mimic the SW LW...

Bummer about not finding LW near you; but don't give up! Even though I know you don't have a local Lowe's store to get Valspar paints, I did have the matching color made up at Home Depot using Behr #1850 paint. I could have sworn I posted that formula in the C&S thread here, but now I can't find it.

I'll post it here and there later tonight (I need to go to my shop to get it). While C&S #1 (the LW mix) is the smallest bit brighter than the C&S #3 mix (using the True Value 'Refinement' paint as a base, or the Valspar or Behr equivalent), most people would not notice the difference even if they looked really close. You do have a local Home Depot right?

**Klawd** · **10-14-09, 06:49 PM**

Yes I do, and they have Behr products

**Harpmaker** · **10-14-09, 11:59 PM**

Here you go Denis; the tint formula for the C&S #3 base at Home Depot is:
1 quart of Behr #1850 paint (ultra white base, which is what the 1850 means as well as the paint type)

Code:

Tint   oz.   384th oz.
C        0       4
F        0       1

To the tinted quart of Behr #1850 you add 16 fl. oz. of Craft Smart Metallic Silver and stir well. Pour both the CSMS and the Behr paint into a large mixing bucket and preferably stir with an attachment in a hand drill, but if you don't have one of those I would use a wire whisk similar to the one in the photo below.

If you are going to spray then don't worry about any air bubbles that might get whipped into the mix, but if you are rolling it might be a good idea to let the mix set a bit to let the air out of it. If you think it needs stirring up again before painting with it, use a flat paint stirring stick like the store gives you and slowly stir the paint lifting the paint up from the bottom of the bucket to the top - kind of like paddling a canoe.

**Klawd** · **10-15-09, 08:13 AM**

Thanks a ton Don, I'll try one more SW store today and if not, HD will be graced with my presence soon enough

**clark17** · **10-16-09, 10:30 AM**

and ...never, never ever use screwdriver to mix paint.... and why do I know this...

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Harpmaker wrote:

Pour both the CSMS and the Behr paint into a large mixing bucket and preferably stir with an attachment in a hand drill, but if you don't have one of those I would use a wire whisk similar to the one in the photo below.

**Klawd** · **10-16-09, 10:43 AM**

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clark17 wrote:

and ...never, never ever use screwdriver to mix paint.... and why do I know this...

Why? Does it SCREW it up?

Sorry, I had to

**Klawd** · **10-29-09, 09:01 AM**

I've finally finished my screen

Thanks to everyone for the good advices, it looks terrific. I'll be posting some screenies up tonight when I'm back home from work.

One more little thing. I've read in a few places that lighting the back of the screen (LEDs usually) can help improve perceived contrast/black levels, what would be everyone take on this?

**mechman** · **10-29-09, 11:10 AM**

Sounds good Denis! I've got a bunch of photos with back lighting and no back lighting here somewhere... I'll get you a link shortly.

**mechman** · **10-29-09, 11:15 AM**

Here ya go Denis! Look at the last ten images in this post.

**Klawd** · **10-29-09, 11:34 AM**

They all look good

What do you like best? With or without backlighting? Do you notice any difference?

**mechman** · **10-29-09, 12:12 PM**

There is a perceivable difference to me. I prefer the lights on for HDTV viewing. And off for movie viewing. I used to like them on all the time but have since changed to the 'bat cave mentality' for movie viewing. When I'm watching normal TV, we usually have some ambient lighting on and the back lighting seems to help perceived contrast.

It will all change soon though. I have ruined my laminate screen and will be installing an Elite screen. I'm just waiting for it to ship and arrive. I selected a 100" EZFrame CineGray for my screen. I've been pondering how I'm going to get the lights behind this screen.

Gotta wait until it arrives though and see what I'm dealing with.

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