IR Blaster's. Why are they disappearing? - Home Theater Systems - Electronics and Forum - HomeTheaterShack
 
SVSound: The Sound Authority in speaker and subwoofers!  The new PB13-Ultra and PC-Ultra subwoofers are astonishingly awesome!
Ultimate Home Entertainment: Providing home theater seating and accessories such as popcorn machines and signage... at very affordable prices!
Parts Express: The #1 Internet source for all your DIY and electronics needs!
Axiom Home Theaters: Award winning Internet direct speakers and subwoofers!
Creative Sound Solutions: Loudspeaker kits and components for subwoofers, midwoofers, woofers and full range speakers!
Mach 5 Audio: Affordable Drivers: Australian supplier of car and home audio subwoofer drivers of exceptional value!
Fi Audio: Infinitely amazing balanced high end musicality designed drivers!
SoundSplinter: A purveyor of exceptionally high quality subwoofers with a price tag that isn't heavier than their subs!
DiyProjectorKits: Come check us out to finish off your home theater with a great priced DIY Projector! Your one stop DIY projector shop, we have it all!
Ascend Acoustics: Award-Winning Audiophile Quality Loudspeakers Made Affordable Via Direct Sales!
Funky Waves: A great source for custom subwoofers and speakers at incredibly low prices!
HomeTheaterReview.com: Home theater equipment review publication that features av preamp, receiver, speaker, blu-ray player and more reviews.
RAM Electronics: Audio, Video, Home Theater and Computer Cables.
GIK Acoustics: Home audio acoustics at its best... especially when you have help from the owners right here at the Shack!  Check out their very affordable acoustic panels!
Discount Merchant:  If you need a replacement bulb for your video device... look no further... save big!
Musicians Friend: Find products for your REW and BFD setup... microphones, mic amps, Galaxy CM-140 SPL meter and more!


    Home Register               Shack Shopping Glossary         Forum Help/FAQ            
Go Back   Home Theater Systems - Electronics and Forum - HomeTheaterShack > Home Theater | Audio and Video > Remotes | Cables | Accessories
Room EQ WizardBFD Guide
Forgot Password?
    Home Theater Links Donations         Image Gallery        

Remotes | Cables | Accessories

IR Blaster's. Why are they disappearing?

Discuss IR Blaster's. Why are they disappearing? in the Home Theater | Audio and Video forum; IR Blaster's. Why are they disappearing? An IR blaster (infra-red blaster) also known as a Cable Box Control is used to transmit an infra-red signal to ...


 Reply     Post New Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-26-07, 05:08 PM   #1 (Link)
 
New Member
Alias: JeffB
Loc: Los Angelos
User: #2923
Since: Oct 2006
Posts: 1
JeffB is offline
IR Blaster's. Why are they disappearing?


An IR blaster (infra-red blaster) also known as a Cable Box Control is used to transmit an infra-red signal to a cable box to change the channel. This is useful for VCRs and DVD recorders. You can set the recorder so that for example channel 2 is recorded at 8:00 and channel 4 at 9:00. The recorder is capable of changing the cable channel so that both channels can be recorded. In my opinion this feature is of absolute critical importance. I would consider any unit without one to be completely defective by design. And yet, very few to any products have such a feature. Further, in shopping lately, I get the feeling that this feature may go away completely.

I suppose that it is possible to run the cable signal into the recorder directly and to use the recorder's tuner. However, I don't believe that this will allow all channels to be recorded. I am pretty sure that some are encrypted, like Showtime and HBO.
Further the cable signal needs to go to the cable box to take advantage of the programming guide.

It seems to be almost guaranteed that if a recorder has an ATSC tuner then it won't have an IR blaster. So I can record OTA 2,4,5,7,9,11 but there is no help to change the channel for the cable channels. Why or why? There is an LG unit that has been recalled that had an ATSC tuner and IR blaster.

I can't find a single standalone VCR anymore.
All of the VCR/DVD players lack an IR blaster.
A couple of VCR/(DVD recorders) have IR blasters.
However, I have just tried the Samsung and the audio hums through the HDMI.
This leaves only a single Sony unit left for me to try.

I have even looked at SVHS. They all seem to lack this feature even at $1000.

I am completely mystified by this. Why does anybody buy a recorder without this feature? Am I missing something?

Further when ever I asked friends, family and co-workers about this, none of them know what an IR-blaster even is. Is this simply a case of people not knowing what they are missing? Still does this explain why products don't contain the feature?
Is it reasonable to assume that TV watching America doesn't know they need an IR-blaster?

Even the sales people at Circuit City seem to know nothing about the feature.


Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Alt Advertisement
Old 10-28-07, 11:34 PM   #2 (Link)
 
Senior Shackster
Platinum Supporter
Alias: bob
Loc: Houston, TX
bob1029's Avatar
User: #7011
Since: Feb 2007
Posts: 117
bob1029 is offline
Re: IR Blaster's. Why are they disappearing?


I have personally never seen a vcr with an ir blaster. I imagine that this is being phased out with the new digital PVR cable/sat boxes that are comming out. They store the content digitally, so you get no loss in quality, you get instant seek, and precise scheduled recordings. I would talk to your current cable co and see if they have a pvr available.


Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-07, 09:28 PM   #3 (Link)
 
Senior Shackster
Alias: Brent
Loc: Wilmington, NC
brent_s's Avatar
User: #7037
Since: Feb 2007
Posts: 349
brent_s is offline
Re: IR Blaster's. Why are they disappearing?


I think it's mostly a case of market demand with a little reliability issue thrown in as well.

The non-DVR cable boxes I had over the past several years had multiple internal timers. If you wanted to record the descrambled output, you would simply set a timer on the cable box and a corresponding record program in the VCR.

It seems like my DirecTV sat box back in the mid-90s (pre-DVR ride the dinosaur to work days) may have had an IR blaster for the reasons you described since all recording had to take place downstream. Can't remember ever actually trying to use it.

Now that I think about it, my JVC S-VHS deck, late 99-00 vintage, came with an IR blaster...never could seem to get it to work properly with the DirecTV receiver.

Get the DVR option from your service provider, you'll be much happier in the end. I finally upgraded to an HDTV last year and opted for the TWC DVR at the same time...the DVR is only a $5/month upcharge. We do much more time shifting now than we did before simply due to the convenience of point-n-click to record and playback...no FF/REW to find the recorded show you wanted to watch, worry about the tape being full, or even misplacing the tape you recorded on.

Did you try to troubleshoot the Samsung box? Audible hum is usually the sign of a ground loop. Could have also been a defective unit or cable.

-Brent


Forum Rules Reply With Quote
 Reply     Post New Thread

« Home Theater Shack > Home Theater | Audio and Video > Remotes | Cables | Accessories »

« Previous Thread   Next Thread »

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads, You may not post replies, You may not post attachments and You may not edit your posts.

Bookmarks
Thread Tools





Mach 5 Audio



This site is better viewed with a screen resolution of 1024 X 768 or higher!
1280 x 1024 is preferred for the best viewing!!!


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:00 AM.



Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2006 - 2008, Home Theater Shack, LLC.
John Mulcahy and Sonnie Parker - ALL RIGHTS RESERVED!

Electronics Retailer   Home Theater HDMI Receivers   HD-DVD   Blu-ray   HomeTheaterReview.com






Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193