Connected...ready I think...now what?

**E-A-G-L-E-S** · **10-04-08, 04:18 PM**

I updated my Soundblaster Live 4bit drivers, I have the RS dB meter at listening position connected to PC via single rca, AVR connected to PC via RCA.

Problems:
The RS meter cal. file is not recognized by my computer...can't even force it.
What do I do next?

**thsmith** · **10-04-08, 04:30 PM**

Matt, which RS meter do you have ? There are 3 files, 2 analog and 1 digital.

I am running XP laptop with new RS analog meter and loading cal file was no issue. FIle name RADIOSHACK-33-2055_4050.cal.

Do you get an error? WHat do you mean fyou can not force it?

**E-A-G-L-E-S** · **10-04-08, 04:36 PM**

33-4050 analog

dell desktop.....file says "RADIOSHACK-33-2055_450.cal"
Windows XP

Windows gives message saying in essence" Cannot open this file, need to know where it came from"....I use Web Search and it results in this: http://shell.windows.com/fileassoc/0...ir.asp?Ext=cal

**thsmith** · **10-04-08, 04:41 PM**

Quote:

E-A-G-L-E-S wrote:

33-4050 analog

dell desktop.....file says "RADIOSHACK-33-2055_450.cal"
Windows XP

Windows gives message saying in essence" Cannot open this file, need to know where it came from"....I use Web Search and it results in this: http://shell.windows.com/fileassoc/0...ir.asp?Ext=cal

file should be 4050 not 450, not sure it maters or if yours is a typo.

**E-A-G-L-E-S** · **10-04-08, 04:42 PM**

It is 4050, sorry for typo.

**thsmith** · **10-04-08, 04:45 PM**

Hummm, I have no clue. WIll it load any of the other cal files ? Not sure it maters but it is recommended to turn off as many apps as possible, disconnect from internet, shut down virus and spyware apps when running REW.

Did you find any thing doing a search ?

Sorry, I have reached my limit of knowledge on this.

**E-A-G-L-E-S** · **10-04-08, 04:46 PM**

Does this look right?

http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...-2055_4050.cal

**thsmith** · **10-04-08, 04:57 PM**

yep, looks like mine.

**E-A-G-L-E-S** · **10-04-08, 05:21 PM**

Alright, I guess I have one more thing to do before trying to start to take measurements......calibrate my Soundblaster Live! 24Bit??

**thsmith** · **10-04-08, 05:31 PM**

SO you got the spl cal file to load ?

Yes, you need to calibrate your sound card using a loop cable.

**E-A-G-L-E-S** · **10-04-08, 05:38 PM**

I'm lost.
I calibrated the spl, but it keeps saying reading is way too low('measure tone sweep). Should be no lower than -10dB and I'm at -80dB?
I don't know if the soundcard is calibrated.

**E-A-G-L-E-S** · **10-04-08, 05:45 PM**

So I need to buy (2) two to one rca adapts?
To make the loop?

**thsmith** · **10-04-08, 06:12 PM**

REW help in the tool is very helpful as well as the stickies.

http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...on-basics.html

**E-A-G-L-E-S** · **10-04-08, 06:17 PM**

I don't even know if I'm plugged into inputs or outputs or line level in on my PC.
Also, much of that verbage is not something I understand. I am barely computer literate.
I just picked one of the two not in use next to the one I use for my PC to AVR for internet music.

Seems to be taking readings though, so I think I just need to find (2) stereo two to one rca adaptors?(so I can calibrate sound card through the loop)
Can I get these at Radioshack?

**thsmith** · **10-04-08, 06:24 PM**

I do not know about your soundcard but assuming you have a correct one, you use the line in and out. Mine is the one linked here. http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...ompatible.html

I use the right out to right in and yes you can get a short one from RS. You will need two cables in the end. One from line out to AVR and line in from RS SPL.

I would use the RS SPL cable to make the loop test.

Most any RCA cable will work.

**thsmith** · **10-04-08, 06:29 PM**

Eagles, I have been learning REW in the last week, here is my posting and not done yet but finally starting the HEAR results.

http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...tml#post117677

Look at weverbs REW Noob post as well.

**E-A-G-L-E-S** · **10-04-08, 06:38 PM**

I have SBLive 24Bit, but I don't have anything that looks like that on the back of my tower.
Just 4 mono females and a R/B/G/ strip.
I have one connecting RS dB meter and another connecting(24/7 for years) the tower to my AVR.(have adaptor at avr end to go from mono to stereo into avr)

**thsmith** · **10-04-08, 06:50 PM**

Have you looked at this, not sure if your is internal or external, this covers external.

http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...nal-setup.html

**E-A-G-L-E-S** · **10-04-08, 06:53 PM**

It must be internal as I can't see it but my menus look nothing like that.(no rooms with speakers on the wall, etc.)

**thsmith** · **10-04-08, 07:08 PM**

Well your going to need cables if you pursue REW so might as well get whats required to perfrom a soundcard loop test.

WOuld not worry too much what the menu looks like.

Sorry, I just do not know enough about soundcards to tell you what to do except try it and worst case you may need another one. The Turttle Beach SRM is $60 at Newegg or $79 at Frys if you have one local.

**salvasol** · **10-04-08, 07:46 PM**

Quote:

E-A-G-L-E-S wrote:

I have SBLive 24Bit, but I don't have anything that looks like that on the back of my tower.
Just 4 mono females and a R/B/G/ strip.
I have one connecting RS dB meter and another connecting(24/7 for years) the tower to my AVR.(have adaptor at avr end to go from mono to stereo into avr)

I assume you have an internal sound card, Right???

The 4 mono females ... Do they look like this SounBlaster 24 ???

Or is it this one ... this is an external, I can't find any Live 24 on their web site that said internal just all this sound cards

**E-A-G-L-E-S** · **10-04-08, 08:11 PM**

Yup, the internal pic is what I have!(first link)

**salvasol** · **10-04-08, 08:22 PM**

Quote:

E-A-G-L-E-S wrote:

Yup, the internal pic is what I have!(first link)

Can you read how they're labeled??? ... front, rear, sub, etc. we need to see if there's anything that said "Line in" (I recall that "Mic In" can be used sometimes ... but not always), but in some new computer it works ...

**salvasol** · **10-04-08, 08:42 PM**

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E-A-G-L-E-S wrote:

I don't even know if I'm plugged into inputs or outputs or line level in on my PC.

I found the card manual ... and shows this

Jack or Connector Description
1. (LIGHT BLUE)
Line In/Mic In/Digital I/O jack (DIGITAL_IO) Connects to analog devices like music synthesizers and other line-level sources.
Connects to an external microphone for voice input.
Connects to the Digital I/O Module (available separately).
2. (LIGHT GREEN)
Line Out 1 jack (_1) Connects to Front Left and Front Right inputs on powered analog speakers or an external amplifier for audio output.
3. (BLACK)
Line Out 2 jack (_2) Connects to Rear Left, Rear Right and Side Right (only on 7.1 speaker systems) inputs on powered analog speakers or an external amplifier for audio output.
4. (ORANGE)
Line Out 3 jack (_3) Connects to Front Center, Subwoofer and Side Left (only on 7.1 speaker systems) or Rear Center (only on 6.1 speaker systems) inputs on powered analog speakers, or an external amplifier for audio output.
5.
Creative Proprietary connector Provides a proprietary connection for other devices. Do not connect a device to this connector unless instructed to do so.
6.
AUX In connector (AUX_IN) Connects to internal audio sources such as TV Tunes or MPEG drives.

Quote:

Seems to be taking readings though, so I think I just need to find (2) stereo two to one rca adaptors?(so I can calibrate sound card through the loop)
Can I get these at Radioshack?

Yes, or you can get a mini to RCA "Y" at BB, CC or any other store ...

**E-A-G-L-E-S** · **10-04-08, 08:53 PM**

Cool, thanks for the help!
I'll pick one up tomorrow and go from there.

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