Help, I think I may have a mess lol - Home Theater Forum and Systems - HomeTheaterShack.com

Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #1 of 49 Old 03-15-17, 10:53 PM Thread Starter
Shackster
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 42
Help, I think I may have a mess lol

OK, just received after ordering two weeks ago my UMIK-1
SO, 8am in shower doorbell rings and peak out window and here's my delivery a day earlier.
So, connected the IMIK-1 downloaded the .cal and then started up REW added the .cal file and well I think I played too much with REW and have things out of whack.
So, I un-installed REW , re installed it and well, went to calibrate the stereo and got no volume , in anything. Even with the Pre Amps own pink noise settings.
So, about then I am 30 minutes late for work. So, off I go, then to Halifax for a hockey game. Got home 12am, down stairs I go and re-set the Pre/Pro. Yeah I got volume, re calibrated to -8db on the volume dial and adjusted the levels to 75db with REW SPL. Using the Pre/Pro pink noise. Well I could only get the sub to 65db and I think it was going to up and walk off. Sounded way louder than the mains and centre.
So, I am thinking maybe thats the reason the capture is so low on the sub 20hz - 80 ish.
Thinking I got to re calibrate and bring that sub db up to 75db also or lower the rest to 65db, right ?
Attached Thumbnails
Help, I think I may have a mess lol-march.jpg  


Last edited by Troy P Dorey; 03-16-17 at 08:03 AM.
Troy P Dorey is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 49 Old 03-16-17, 10:27 AM
HTS Senior Moderator
 
Wayne A. Pflughaupt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Katy, Texas
Posts: 8,916
Send a message via Yahoo to Wayne A. Pflughaupt
Re: Help, I think I may have a mess lol

I’m afraid not much makes sense there, Troy. I can’t tell if you’re doing what you’re doing with REW’s controls or your sound system’s. Nor is the actual problem coming through. If your sub’s level is low, that’s not an REW issue.

Regards,
Wayne



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
|
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

Wayne A. Pflughaupt is offline  
post #3 of 49 Old 03-16-17, 12:53 PM Thread Starter
Shackster
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 42
Re: Help, I think I may have a mess lol

all my sound system.
Ok I used REW SPL Meter with my UMIK-1 Mic. Installed the .CAL files for the Umik
then I set my Pre/Pro system to the normal level I listen to -5db on the dial. I went into the Pre/Pro settings and using the pink noise generator with the Pre/Pro's I adjusted all the speakers to 75db. My sub though I could only get to 70db. I have Axiom EP350
Once that was done I ran REW measure. and then this is the result of that.

I am wondering if I should recalibrate to 60 db all speakers and re run the REW Measure
Attached Thumbnails
Help, I think I may have a mess lol-march-17.jpg  

Troy P Dorey is offline  
 
post #4 of 49 Old 03-16-17, 05:44 PM Thread Starter
Shackster
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 42
Re: Help, I think I may have a mess lol

getting very annoyed at this program and mic. Should of kept my money and just upgraded the processor to a new receiver and let ARC do the job. Low input levels now. Had to use my cell phone as a SPL meter
Troy P Dorey is offline  
post #5 of 49 Old 03-16-17, 05:49 PM
Elite Shackster
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Michigan, USA
Posts: 1,482
My System
Re: Help, I think I may have a mess lol

Post an mdat file so we can see some of the your settings. Maybe there is a hint there.
jtalden is offline  
post #6 of 49 Old 03-16-17, 06:40 PM Thread Starter
Shackster
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 42
Re: Help, I think I may have a mess lol

FInally got something. LIne Level on USB was off
Attached Thumbnails
Help, I think I may have a mess lol-march-17.jpg  

Troy P Dorey is offline  
post #7 of 49 Old 03-16-17, 06:44 PM Thread Starter
Shackster
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 42
Re: Help, I think I may have a mess lol

Ok thanks here goes
Attached Files MArch 17 -1.mdat (135.7 KB) 
Troy P Dorey is offline  
post #8 of 49 Old 03-16-17, 07:52 PM
Elite Shackster
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Michigan, USA
Posts: 1,482
My System
Re: Help, I think I may have a mess lol

If I understand correctly the Subs playing at a high sound level compared to the mains when this measurement was made.
There is no evidence in the chart below that a sub was even active. It looks like a main speaker response. One that is crossed over at pretty high, maybe 120 or even 200 Hz.
I reviewed the 'info' in mdat file and all looked normal to me. I found no evidence of the problem in the REW settings.
Even with the loud bass the mic recorded unusually low levels in the bass range. Even in quiet room the a measurement would normally record 45-55 dB at 20 Hz just from a combination of the normal ambient noise and the normal mic noise floor. It did start to detect sound >70 Hz, and it rose to ~75 dB at 200 Hz. See the chart below plotted with more normal scaling.
Help, I think I may have a mess lol-mic-problem.jpg

I can't think of any good explanation for this result in the setup, but there could be something. You may want to contact MiniDSP and see if this is possibly a known mic problem. If you can, borrow another UMIK-1 mic to confirm if that is the problem.
jtalden is offline  
post #9 of 49 Old 03-16-17, 09:25 PM Thread Starter
Shackster
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 42
Thanks I get hardly any bottom end volume when running the scan. Very low. My processor is set at 80hz cut off. I will try more tomorrow
Troy P Dorey is offline  
post #10 of 49 Old 03-17-17, 12:57 PM Thread Starter
Shackster
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 42
Re: Help, I think I may have a mess lol

I'm going to buy an external USB sound card. Trying to locate a HDMI sound card extractor but not happening cheaply
Troy P Dorey is offline  
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
lol , mess

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now




PLEASE COMPLETE ALL REQUIRED FIELDS BELOW... THANKS!

REQUIRED FIELDS ON THIS PAGE
YOU MUST COMPLETE ALL OF THESE

Username
Password
Confirm Password
Email Address
Confirm Email Address
Random Question
Random Question #2




User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
PLEASE READ BELOW PRIOR TO ENTERING AN EMAIL ADDRESS!

ATTENTION!

YOU MUST ACTIVATE YOUR ACCOUNT!

Activation requires you reply to an email we will send you after you register... if you do not reply to this email, you will not be able to view certain areas of the forum or certain images... nor will you be able download software.

AN INVALID EMAIL ADDRESS WILL CAUSE YOUR ACCOUNT TO BE DELETED!

See our banned email list here: Banned Email List

We DO NOT respond to spamcop, boxtrapper and spamblocker emails... please add @hometheatershack DOT com to your whitelist prior to registering or you will get nowhere on your registration.


Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML is not allowed!
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 


For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome