Home Theater Shack SVSound GIK Acoustics Ultimate Home Entertainment Fi Audio SoundSplinter Discount Merchant Funky Waves Creative Sound Solutions Affordable Drivers/Mach5Audio

Welcome to Home Theater Shack forums... a home theater forum for discussion of home theater design, construction and audio video electronics. Check out out popular DIY forums for subwoofers and projector screens as well as our famous Subwoofer Tests forum. Don't miss our DVD, HD-DVD and Blu-ray forums including DVD media reviews and the latest DVD releases.

You are currently viewing our forums as a guest which limits features and access to certain areas. For full access, login or register. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free... so please, join the Shack today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Home Register Mark Forums Read
Go Back   Home Theater Shack > Subwoofer Equalization | Calibration > REW Forum
Room EQ WizardBFD Guide
Register
Home Theater Links Image Gallery Donations Glossary

REW Forum

What's the order for speaker measurements?

Discuss What's the order for speaker measurements? in the Subwoofer Equalization | Calibration forum; What's the order for speaker measurements? Hi folks I've just started using REW and would appreciate your feedback on a few 'newbie' questions: 1. Measuring ...

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-13-07, 12:29 PM   #1 (Link)
 
New Member
Alias: siren
Loc: Auckland, NZ
User: #14156
Since: Dec 2007
Posts: 3
sirenjunkies is offline
What's the order for speaker measurements?


Hi folks

I've just started using REW and would appreciate your feedback on a few 'newbie' questions:

1. Measuring The Lows
When measuring the low freq's, I've been running the sub and full range speakers and rolling test signal off at 200 Hz. Is is correct to use all speakers or should I use the sub only? (Bearing in mind, the sub xover is at 75 Hz with the main speakers).

2. Measuring Full Range
Ok, the logical assumption is to run the sub and the 2 full range speakers while measuring the full range (which is what I've been doing). Is there any value in testing each FR speaker individually? I imagine the interaction between all speakers running is going to show up problem areas (modes/peaks/dips) better.

3. House Curve
I've read the in-depth posts on this: very interesting and thanks to the contributors. I loaded one of these low freq curves (starts 31.5 Hz @ 0, to 160 Hz @ -17.5) into REW and it plots as a LF upward scoop when viewing the full range EQ response. If I match my low end to this, I've got a bucket-load of bass. Is this correct?

Any replies much appreciated

Siren
ps the depth of knowledge on this forum regarding REW is bordering on staggering for me.


Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Alt Advertisement
Old 12-13-07, 02:27 PM   #2 (Link)
 
Shack Administrator
Platinum Supporter
Alias: brucek
User: #6
Since: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,149
brucek is offline
Re: What's the order for speaker measurements?


Quote:
1. Measuring The Lows
When measuring the low freq's, I've been running the sub and full range speakers and rolling test signal off at 200 Hz. Is is correct to use all speakers or should I use the sub only?
Initially, it's best to measure the sub alone without the mains. This allows you to get a response without any other influences, and allows you to equalize the subwoofer (if that's the intent) without the effect of interactions with other speakers. The receiver is set in stereo mode with all soundfields and eq turned off and the mains speakers disconnected.
Then you can add the mains and see how they mix with the sub, especially around the crossover.

Quote:
2. Measuring Full Range
Ok, the logical assumption is to run the sub and the 2 full range speakers while measuring the full range (which is what I've been doing). Is there any value in testing each FR speaker individually?
Normally, only the sub and the sub+mains is measured when REW software is used. Remember that if you are going to test full range, that a Radio Shack meter is not suffice. You'll need a full range microphone such as the ECM8000.

Quote:
3. House Curve
I've read the in-depth posts on this: very interesting and thanks to the contributors. I loaded one of these low freq curves (starts 31.5 Hz @ 0, to 160 Hz @ -17.5) into REW and it plots as a LF upward scoop when viewing the full range EQ response. If I match my low end to this, I've got a bucket-load of bass. Is this correct?
Personally, I'm not a fan of these 'negative' house curve value. I like to start at the crossover at zero, and then offer a modest rise to about 30Hz of about 5dB to 8dB.I then match the mains to join with the sub at the crossover at the same level. This then says that you'll have a reasonable rise from the crossover down to 30Hz of 5dB to 8dB. Not a bucket, just a shot glass............

brucek


Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-07, 04:27 PM   #3 (Link)
 
New Member
Alias: siren
Loc: Auckland, NZ
User: #14156
Since: Dec 2007
Posts: 3
sirenjunkies is offline
Re: What's the order for speaker measurements?


Hi BruceK

Thanks for the advice. I'll go and have a play and see what happens.

Siren


Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Forum Rules Reply With Quote
Reply

« Home Theater Shack > Subwoofer Equalization | Calibration > REW Forum »

« Previous Thread   Next Thread »

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads, nor post replies, nor post attachments, and you can not edit your posts.
HTML is not allowed!

vB code is On, Smilies are On and [IMG] code is On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tempest-X 15" on order! pappaj DIY Subwoofers 69 02-26-08 03:17 PM
Strata Minis on Order :D Josuah Home Audio Speakers 4 12-02-07 09:29 PM
Order of Operations for Sonosub adamt DIY Subwoofers - Sealed and Ported 8 08-01-07 02:05 PM
Order of Calibration? John_Williams REW Forum 2 10-21-06 07:56 AM
Current HD DVD Available for Pre-Order Tommy High Definition | HD-DVD | Blu-ray 1 09-25-06 12:04 PM


Video Products, Inc. Mach 5 Audio






This site is better viewed with a screen resolution of 1024 X 768 or higher!
1280 x 1024 is preferred for the best viewing!!!



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:48 AM.



Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2006 - 2008, Home Theater Shack, LLC.
John Mulcahy and Sonnie Parker - ALL RIGHTS RESERVED!

Electronics Retailer   Home Theater HDMI Receivers   HD-DVD   Blu-ray

Parts Express: 10,000 Audio & Video Products     SonyStyle   Aperion Audio   Cambridge SoundWorks   Toshiba Direct   Philips   Parts Express: 10,000 Audio & Video Products

OneCall: Your Home Theater, Digital Camera, and HDTV Experts   Circuit City   Vanns.com Audio, Video and Electronics   Best Buy   6th Ave     Buy.com   J&R Computer/Music World

Click here for your favorite eBay items   uBid is the marketplace you can trust!   eCost.com   www.Abt.com   TigerDirectTigerDirect   Once You Know, You Newegg   Apple Store   Be-Direct

Shop at the World's Largest Music Gear Company!   ZZounds   GuitarCenter.com   Wal-Mart.com USA, LLCWal-Mart   RadioShack Logo   Batteries.com for Every Season and Reason   All Battery   BetterCables.com - Home Theater Cables

Netflix, Inc.   Blockbuster Online   Cinema Now   Creative Labs-Leader in Digital Entertainment   Abes   DHGate   X10.com Home Solutions   MCM Electronics - Parts and More!

PC Mall - Great Technology, Great Advice, Great Pr   MacMall - #1 Apple Direct Reseller   Target   ButterflyPhoto.com   TicketMaster   Purchase Tickets   Crucial.com   CD WOW!




Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173