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Old 07-11-06, 03:00 PM   #11
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Re: how to make al this work (spl to rew to bfd) help


Yeah, that link works. It's just that everyone likes to see pictures because it's so easy to comment on. Try and see if you can figure out how to make an attachmenet here at the site for the future.

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Is it easier to control through REW or will it still take some work?
It's quite easy to control through REW once you have it all hooked up with the correct cables and adapters.

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I did it manually on graph paper and the peaks didn't look anything like what came up in rew
Post your text results and show us what you have. (What model of the three SPL meters do you use?)

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I have the new digital meter and that is what I used ,but I didn't convert anything before I imported it into ,should I have ? The graph I did was on graph
paper done manually with a pen and a ruler .I can add the number file if that is what you mean ,Don't worry as soon as I get a change to play with this a little I will get the hang of it .Thanks again brucek.

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I have the new digital meter and that is what I used ,but I didn't convert anything before I imported it into ,should I have ?
No, you did good. Except you copied down a few of the values wrong at 487Hz and 117Hz (as shown in the insert for 487Hz below). I corrected these and have posted the graph. I had to use REW to manually subtract a wholesale 15db from all your values to get a look at what it would be like near the target.

I can't believe how much you're outputting at those low frequencies. Amazing, must be shaking the house. You need a BFD.

I think the graphing will be much more accurate when you get REW going. It's a good start though to get yourself educated on this stuff.

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This shows one of the two errors in your text data causing the spikes.See the double entry of 48Hz. I corrected it and the one at 117Hz.

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Thanks brucek,figures I would have doubles up numbers ,I inputted those about three times .Yes the wife thinks it is a little loud at times but you never know when you need the power or the ability to go low .Thanks for looking over my readings .I will try and get all the adapters I need so I can get some figures some time this weekend ,trying to go camping for a few days so it may not be until the first of next week .I already have the bfd hooked up and ready once I figure out were I need to cut or add boost .The corrected graph looks better now I know why the paper graph looked better .Thanks again brucek will be back once I get rew hooked up to the bfd .


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Hello everyone trying to get rew going have all the cables set ,but don't know what to do to test the system and record a graph.I have been reading the help files but I am lost please help .Thanks in advance .


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okay I took a few readings with the spl meter and rew ,these may or may not be right I took them with the different sine wave,pink ,and other tests any advice .Thanks Ron

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Re: how to make al this work (spl to rew to bfd) help


Looks like you are measuring either with a loopback connected (i.e. you have the output linked directly to the input and are measuring that) or you have the input set as "What U Hear" or similar, which also simply records what is being played out.


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I hooked eveything up like brucek's photo showed ,but I will double check and repost the results .Thanks Ron.


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The suggestion by John is that if the error isn't caused by an external mechanical loopback, then you must have the soundcard in software loopback mode.

This is evidenced by the fact that the graph is showing an exact mirror of the SPL meters calibration file. If I shorted the output of the soundcard to the input, this is what I would see. You're not reading the SPL meter at all.

Check that the soundcard doesn't have a setting that puts it in a monitor mode. What kind of soundcard do you have?

Also a minor point, but normally we use a vertical graph axis of 45dB to 105dB and a horizontal axis from 15Hz to 200Hz. Use the graph axis icon for this setup.

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That makes sense ,if rew is just copying down what it puts out ,with the way I had it hooked up I could hear all the sound from the subwoofer ,so it has to be with the sound card ,I don't know what kind it is just has a line in and out to the speaker or mic .I will try again and see what happens ,I thought those graphs looked to clean ,and at a funny angle ,Thanks all will report when I have a chance to rerun them
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