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Re: The Official $3,000 Speaker Evaluation / Home Audition Event

Well.....

Joe and Leonard have submitted their comments for the next review, so I will try to get the rest of it together for posting tomorrow.
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Oh, great. Now I'm not going to get anything done at work tomorrow because I'll be checking this thread every ten minutes or so. You guys are ruining me!

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Re: The Official $3,000 Speaker Evaluation / Home Audition Event

Awesome first review on the Salks.

I am curious about evaluating a speaker on how it handles sibilance. Sibilance is mostly due to the wrong microphone being used up front. If a song has sibilance issues (I'm looking at you, Al Stewart!), the blame should be firmly placed on the engineer. Too bad Al's engineer didn't use a more dynamic mic like the the current EV RE20.

I guess my point is that if the source material has sibilance and the speaker reduces it, what else in the music is the speaker altering from the original recording and how does that change the overall listening experience? I can see the thought that if you can hear the sibilance, perhaps the speaker is accentuating it. That would definitely be bad.

Anyway, just trying to understand the thought process on this issue of the review.

Although, my ears have too many hours at the Zoo bar in Lincoln to be considered accurate measurement instrumentssssss.

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Awesome first review on the Salks.

I am curious about evaluating a speaker on how it handles sibilance. Sibilance is mostly due to the wrong microphone being used up front. If a song has sibilance issues (I'm looking at you, Al Stewart!), the blame should be firmly placed on the engineer. Too bad Al's engineer didn't use a more dynamic mic like the the current EV RE20.

I guess my point is that if the source material has sibilance and the speaker reduces it, what else in the music is the speaker altering from the original recording and how does that change the overall listening experience? I can see the thought that if you can hear the sibilance, perhaps the speaker is accentuating it. That would definitely be bad.

Anyway, just trying to understand the thought process on this issue of the review.
Excellent questions. I felt that the smooth high end and low distortion of the SongTower SC did a pretty good job of not accentuating sibilance. I would not say that they cut it or controlled it, just did not make it worse. Joe is our "sibilance authority," with Leonard a close second, I am sure they will have something to say.


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Earplugs. Even our beloved Zoo bar gets loud enough you need 'em. I catch a fair amount of live music in the Lincoln/Omaha area, and these are my choice. Yeah, they seem to make the music sound dull at first, but after a couple of songs of adjustment time for your ears, you will forget they are there. When the show is over - no ringing ears!
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Re: The Official $3,000 Speaker Evaluation / Home Audition Event

The Initial Intro Post has been updated for probably the final time, with additional information about
  • The Speakers
  • The Room
  • Associated Equipment
  • Thoughts On Equalizing High-End Speakers
Also, a Summary Post has been updated with Joe's Fun Photos of
  • The Speaker Lineup
  • Speaker Storage
  • The Aftermath of the Removed Equipment Rack
  • The Stage Cutouts and Front Woofers
  • Other Room Views
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Re: The Official $3,000 Speaker Evaluation / Home Audition Event

I decided to include some thoughts on sibilance as there were a couple instances where it really stood out to a point where I considered leaving the room. Since some people are more sensitive to it than others, I thought it would be good to mention it.
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Re: The Official $3,000 Speaker Evaluation / Home Audition Event

Salk review turned out as I expected it to - it's a very good product and I know a few people that have the model with the Raal tweeters and they have similar comments about it. I'm very interested in two of the upcoming reviews ... the Tannoy speakers and the Phase Techs. You don't hear a lot about these two brands - but Tannoy has been around for a while, and I do like concentric drivers ! Phase Techs are nice as well, but seemed to disappear from public view for a while, it will be good hearing a review of one of their models again!

So far so good! P.S. Nice pics as well!!!
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Salk speakers are not known for sibilance. If it is in the recording, then you will hear it. Have owned 6 pairs of salks with all tweeter types. Overall a review I expected given my own long term insights. Well written and thorough guys. And lots of hours of " work"!!

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Salk speakers are not known for sibilance. If it is in the recording, then you will hear it. Have owned 6 pairs of salks with all tweeter types. Overall a review I expected given my own long term insights. Well written and thorough guys. And lots of hours of " work"!!
True Pete - I have heard quite a few different Salk speakers, and this was the first I recall having difficulty with sibilance. Now, do note that the volume was at -4 at the time and when it was turned back to -10, it was better. To me, the Salk speaker is one that I never personally thought of as a speaker you crank up to loud volumes - it is one you want to sit, relax, look at that stunning finish , and just listen to some soothing tunes. That is the picture in my head when we start talking Salk speakers.
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I also want to take a minute out to say a big thanks to Wayne - the amount of work and effort he puts into these really makes it all happen. I applaud you sir!
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