The astounding new AS-EQ1 SubEQ goes on sale!

**Jason_Nolan** · **10-02-09, 07:36 PM**

I accidently posted a negative comment that I fealt bad about afterwards. I should have tested all options and my set up before posting.

I haven't had to use any experience from SVS, but I know they're available if I need them, which is nice.

I'm happy with what the SVS AS-EQ1 does in my current new house, only my decay times are horrible as it's on a slab and the walls are bare. I know that's not something the SVS can fix and new that going in. Also, I can tell a difference in having the JL F113 and Trinity on the same channel, but for now it will work until I get matching F113's. Set up and using it was cake, I barely read through the instructions.

When I do use it, I loose all the boost (room gain) in the 20-40hz range, which I do enjoy sometimes, but I can easily turn it off if I want that sloppy big lower end for movies or Hip hop, etc.

I'd say that this is a great addition if you give it time to adjust.

I would like to see some options like allowing a house curve, or Dynamic EQ with adjustability as a software update. I would also like to know if these are going to be a cost to owners to download.

My only gripe from buying it and owning it is that SVS didn't just go ahead and thrown their 3 foot sub cable in to go from receiver to the AS-EQ1. For the price, that shouldn't have been an option and should have been included. I guess I just have to complain about something.

I'm a bit surprised you're complaining before trying it though.

**Jason_Nolan** · **10-02-09, 07:37 PM**

Sorry, my house isn't a slab, it's on a crawl space. Hopefully this makes more sense.

**Jason_Nolan** · **10-03-09, 11:10 PM**

FINALLY!!!

I can say I'm now happy with how my subs (all four of them) play together.

My final positioning that played the best was putting the JL F113 to the outside of the Front left BP3000TL and the Trinity to the outside of the right BP3000TL.

Now I just need to clean up the mess of wires...

SVS works great, sometimes you just need to experiment in some rooms.

I encourage anyone to try it, not just once, but move your subs until you're happy with them and you will get results you like.

**recruit** · **10-04-09, 04:41 AM**

Setup and placement of the speakers is always the most important part and EQ can just add the finishing touches to what would already be a great sound, Audyssey is IMO easily the best solution for EQ, SVS really have brought a product which can do wonders for any subs and not just SVS made ones, I may well end up getting the EQ1 if my AV888 does not satisfy my needs for EQ on the sub...

**jpk** · **10-19-09, 04:41 PM**

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cavchameleon wrote:

Received my unit, but have not had the time (with the house being to myself and alone) to have some fun with it yet. Hopefully this weekend

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Ray

Hi Ray,

I'm curious, did you get your EQ-1 up and going?

Joe

**Patrick Nevin** · **10-24-09, 06:01 PM**

I was just playing an 80hz and 20hz sine waves and the 80hz wave is louder than the 20hz wave. Dose that mean it is a flat response?

**recruit** · **10-24-09, 06:08 PM**

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Patrick Nevin wrote:

I was just playing an 80hz and 20hz sine waves and the 80hz wave is louder than the 20hz wave. Dose that mean it is a flat response?

No, it does not, 80hz is audible but with 20hz you will feel it more than hearing it...have you tried calculating the response in your room to see what it looks like?

**Kal Rubinson** · **10-24-09, 06:10 PM**

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Patrick Nevin wrote:

I was just playing an 80hz and 20hz sine waves and the 80hz wave is louder than the 20hz wave.

If they were at the identical level of measured output (with SPL meter), this is normal since our ears are considerably less sensitive at 20Hz than at 80Hz.

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Dose that mean it is a flat response?

It doesn't preclude that but you need to measure to know.

**Patrick Nevin** · **10-24-09, 06:45 PM**

I do have a just about a flat response. there is a dip between 22-29 hz area. but it is level at 20hz I did use a spl meter to check the sine wave levels.

**Pocobear** · **10-28-09, 10:25 AM**

Has anyone heard when the next shipments of EQ1's are due to ship out to customers?

**recruit** · **10-29-09, 03:12 AM**

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Pocobear wrote:

Has anyone heard when the next shipments of EQ1's are due to ship out to customers?

I never knew there was a shortage of EQ1's, they must be extremely popular if people are still pre-ordering...

**ccdoggy** · **10-29-09, 01:02 PM**

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recruit wrote:

I never new there was a shortage of EQ1's, they must be extremely popular if people are still pre-ordering...

they are totally out and have been for a while now. I won the contest on this site for one and am in the process of waiting for the next shipment to arrive before i can get mine. Seemingly very long and tireless waiting game.

Been holding off on a few movies so i can watch them with the EQ all setup and doin its thing.

**ccdoggy** · **10-29-09, 01:03 PM**

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Pocobear wrote:

Has anyone heard when the next shipments of EQ1's are due to ship out to customers?

I guess early/mid november. thats what i was whispered when i asked.

**Jason_Nolan** · **11-01-09, 11:57 AM**

One thing I would like to see SVS fix with a firmware update is the constant turn on thump you get through your subs when turning on your system.

Why is this necessary and even some of the cheapest gear has eliminated this problem for a while.

Am I the only one with this issue?

**recruit** · **11-01-09, 12:01 PM**

can you not turn the EQ1 on before the sub and then that will eliminate the thump noise that you get?

**Jason_Nolan** · **11-01-09, 12:13 PM**

I have it connected to my receiver. The unit is on and comes on when the receiver is turned on and turned off when the receiver is turned off. Best that I don't have to leave it on all the time and I don't have to manually walk over to it and power it on everytime.

I figured this would be the only logical way to install it. Nobody else hooked it up this way?

It's not like the turn on thump is huge, but it's still annoying and I always heard that was bad for subs (maybe I'm wrong)?

Not a huge concern, but it still should be fixed for the money it costs.

**recruit** · **11-01-09, 12:20 PM**

I am not sure how easy it is to supress the out going signal on EQ type devices, I have heard the Antimode does this aswell, and IIRC the Velodyne SMS-1 also.

I understand the way you have connected the EQ1 which is good I suppose and makes life simpler, but it might be worth plugging it into another outlet and then leave it in standby or on for normal operating...and that way it will not keep sending a burst of noise to the sub when turning the amp on...

**goonstopher** · **11-01-09, 12:22 PM**

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ccdoggy wrote:

they are totally out and have been for a while now. I won the contest on this site for one and am in the process of waiting for the next shipment to arrive before i can get mine. Seemingly very long and tireless waiting game.

Been holding off on a few movies so i can watch them with the EQ all setup and doin its thing.

Ha I HAVE mine and have had it sitting around waiting to be used for a couple months so my perfectly good as-eq1 is going to waste... oh well

**snowmanick** · **11-04-09, 10:15 AM**

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Jason_Nolan wrote:

One thing I would like to see SVS fix with a firmware update is the constant turn on thump you get through your subs when turning on your system.

Why is this necessary and even some of the cheapest gear has eliminated this problem for a while.

Am I the only one with this issue?

I had the same issue on other EQ's (BFD & Anti-Mode), I just leave them on. If you are power cycling or moving equimpent just follow a sequence where it is turned on b4 the sub(s) and you should be fine.

**Jason_Nolan** · **11-04-09, 07:13 PM**

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snowmanick wrote:

I had the same issue on other EQ's (BFD & Anti-Mode), I just leave them on. If you are power cycling or moving equimpent just follow a sequence where it is turned on b4 the sub(s) and you should be fine.

I see what you're saying, but for a 700 dollar eq this shouldn't be an option or it should have come with a cheap remote to turn it off and on and also to bypass if you'd like to.

All in all, these are small gripes for a good piece of equipment.

**Doug McBride** · **11-05-09, 08:01 PM**

In a little bit I’ll be pushing out a notification email to US AS-EQ1 customers indicating the new software is available for download. If you purchased your AS-EQ1 from one of our dealers, you will be receiving or already have received the notification from them with essentially the same information.

If you are a US customer and don’t receive the notification email by tomorrow (Friday 11/6) please email me at dougm@svsound.com and let me know so I can get you on the list for future mailings.

SubEQ 3.2 has been tested extensively by a broad cross-section of users with different types of equipment. As you’ll see, we’ve changed the Level Matching procedure so that Audyssey equipped AVRs and Pre/Pros are set up differently than other types of Auto EQ/Auto Setup systems. Both types of AVRs and Pre/Pros have simplified and reliable level matching methods that you should find to be more straightforward than the unified method used with SubEQ 3.1.

Please take the time to read the Update documentation and become comfortable with the steps necessary to perform the upgrade. Although the doc has several pages, there’s a lot of redundancy since both types of Level Matching processes are covered in detail, as they are in the updated Operator Manual.

The AS-EQ1_SubEQ3.2_Update.zip file is essentially a CD image of what you would receive with the AS-EQ1 product. You can either un-zip it on your hard disk and run it from there, or you can burn the contents of the .zip file to a CD.

Highlights of this release are additional Windows platform support and updated firmware that improves the accuracy of measurement and provides 2X the filter resolution of the previous version.

Enjoy.

Doug McBride
SVSound Software Services

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Following is a copy of the notification email to US customers:

Dear SVSound AS-EQ1 customer:

You are receiving this email because you requested to receive update notices for the SVSound AS-EQ1 software, firmware and technical procedures.

This is to alert you that a new version of the SVSound AS-EQ1 software and firmware is available to current AS-EQ1 customers. Instructions on how to upgrade your AS-EQ1 from SubEQ 3.1 to SubEQ 3.2 (including new firmware) can be downloaded from:

http://www.svsound.com/AS-EQ1/SubEQ3...nical_Note.pdf

The updated software and documentation can be downloaded from:

http://www.svsound.com/AS-EQ1/SubEQ3...3.2_Update.zip

SubEQ 3.2 includes new features and bug fixes from SubEQ 3.1. These include:

• Support for Windows Vista 64-bit OS. This extends formal Windows platform support to include XP, Vista-32 bit and Vista 64-bit. Windows 7 32/64 is currently being certified however early tests indicate no issues.

• Updated Level Measurement Method. The Level Matching function now uses the “C-weighted Leq method” and supports a Reset button. Leq is essentially a running average of the sound level as calculated over the measurement period.

• A new Level Matching procedure for both Audyssey MultEQ-equipped and non-Audyssey AVRs and Pre/Pros.

• Updated firmware for AS-EQ1 DSP.

• Filter resolution doubled over previous firmware.

• Certificate graphing bug fixed in Vista.

Please download and thoroughly read the AS-EQ1_SubEQ 3.2_Update_Technical_Note before beginning the update process as it requires a re-calibration of the AS-EQ1 and if using an Audyssey MultEQ-equipped receiver/processor, a re-calibration of that unit as well.

If you have any questions or require assistance with the update of your AS-EQ1, please email techsupport@svsound.com and we will be happy to help.

**bac4822** · **11-06-09, 12:40 AM**

Installed the SubEQ software and firmware updates and found great improvement. Since I last posted, I upgraded my Yamaha AVR to an Onkyo TX-SR707 with Audyssey MultEQ. Version 3.2 of SubEQ gave a flatter after bass frequency response and the suggested sub trim level, which always was 2 to 2.5 dB high in version 3.1, now corresponds well to the value assigned by my AVR. SubEQ suggested a sub level of +0.5 dB and distance of 18.6 ft; my AVR 0.0 dB sub trim and distance of 18.5 ft.

**goonstopher** · **11-16-09, 11:28 AM**

This board seems to be where the real technical talk goes on so I NEED some input!

My subs are mismatched so I need to use one of these trade off, I am willing to try all of them but would like to know where to start:

Setup - Epik Dynasty that goes to a true 15hz -3, the other is dual 19ov.02's from eD at 6'cu each powered with 650w with an f3 around 45hz pre-room

Option 1: Use 1 in 1 out - Turn on the crossover on the ported sub set at 45-50hz (low pass filter) and place out a y-splitter after the output on the as-eq1 - Let each sub handle half of the frequencies

My thoughts: The sealed has great headroom above its f3 despite being dual 18's also I do not need more headroom than either sub could provide on its own so this would cover the full band BUT only using 1 in 1 out might not be best and why throw away headroom if you have it. Also I have heard here and there that the deeper epik subs can lack some punch if one was to nitpick

Option 2: Use 1 in 2 out - Use an external boost to lower the f3 of the sealed subs to 33hz pre-room gain and get room gain into the high 20's f3 and possibly bring the combined f3 into the mid 20's

My thoughts: The possible bottoming scares me, mikep from says it would bottom at 450w and I give them 650 peak but Elemental designs gives theirs up to 1300w. In this case I would be getting more than the epik alone and moving a lot of air. This seems like the highest bass output with 2 subs operating at once for an even response.

Option 3: 2 in 2 out - Same as above BUT separated into 2 in 2 out

Thoughts - If option 2 seems best then I will try this as well and judge by ear since the change is so easy but technically there would be a tenancy to be heavier about the f3 than above because they are not eq'ed relative to each other

**malikarshad** · **11-16-09, 11:47 AM**

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bac4822 wrote:

Installed the SubEQ software and firmware updates and found great improvement. Since I last posted, I upgraded my Yamaha AVR to an Onkyo TX-SR707 with Audyssey MultEQ. Version 3.2 of SubEQ gave a flatter after bass frequency response and the suggested sub trim level, which always was 2 to 2.5 dB high in version 3.1, now corresponds well to the value assigned by my AVR. SubEQ suggested a sub level of +0.5 dB and distance of 18.6 ft; my AVR 0.0 dB sub trim and distance of 18.5 ft.

I upgraded the firmware to 3.2 and found that the bass has improved

. It sounds much tigher and smoother then the previous calibration.
I have the older single SVS PB2+(12.3 drivers) and I took 9 measurments. The new trim level is +1.0 from +3.5 and the distance remained the same at 19.1ft.

Good work SVS and keep it up on the great products

.

**recruit** · **11-16-09, 03:08 PM**

So with the new firmware, it has increased the filter resolution as per the below, does that mean it goes up from 256 to 512?

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Doug McBride wrote:

Highlights of this release are additional Windows platform support and updated firmware that improves the accuracy of measurement and provides 2X the filter resolution of the previous version.

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